Hurney should stay on with the Panthers...

[heel31ok]

3 hours ago, Squirrel said:

Otah

Was the right pick...

[Toomers]

Just now, Doc Holiday said:

I don't even talk to Toomers anymore, not since the "contract kill clause argument. Bro literally ignored everything I was saying because he didn't want to be wrong, ain't got time for that juvenile crap. 

Any time you’re ready to tell me what I was wrong about, we can talk all day. But until then, you just came in here and said I was wrong, and wouldn’t admit it, because you said so. So who doesn’t want to be wrong again. 
 

We have all seen the thread. Recently. So let’s pull it up and you can show me the kill clause that Hurney didn’t use. Tell me exactly what Hurney did wrong on Kalils contract. Because you sure never have yet. Let’s go to the thread. 
 

 

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, Doc Holiday said:

Don't waste your time with him, he says crazy stuff to be noticed, nothing too anything he says. like when he made a post about head coaches and pretty much named every coordinator in the league plus two guys that Scot and I where talking about in another thread. he just wants to noticed.

He's fairly new, so I don't figure he's familiar with some of our "recidivists".

I'm thinking that one's Chuck,

[Cpt slay a ho]

Wow another poster calling out toomer for his shenanigans......shocking 

 

[Toomers]

10 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

Didn’t dig too deep into who was right or wrong, and I’m not in the debate yous guys are currently having, but the poster i quoted came at  him like he was just going to try and quote another poster saying dg was force to draft cmc and pass it off as you.

He had a reference point and used it shortly after, but by then cpt jump to conclusion had already put his foot in his mouth. 

now whether your quoted post meant what was stated is the semantics you guys are debating, I just wanted to point out the one poster who is quick to hop in prematurely constantly
 

And everything was explained to someone “who jumped right in with me” as always. If the highlight of your day is distorting stuff to make you feel better...Go for it. I know it’s rough being over 30 and still at home. But it will happen one day. 

[Forty-Eight]

9 minutes ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

Really?

I haven't gone and done the research on this question, but you do realize that you are including the GM's of Cleveland, Buffalo pre Beane, Cincinnati, Detroit, Miami, etc etc in this. Are you really sure if I go digging around in those GM's draft history what we'll see is a bunch of hits and almost no misses? 

Again, the standard we are talking about here is not super bowl winning GM's. We're all in agreement that Hurney has fallen short. Where we differ is that I think his first round record is solid and you're claiming that drafting in the first round is a no brainer. While I'll grant you that the most success is found in that round, I invite you to reconsider the extent of your assertion, because I'm pretty sure if I start looking I can find muliple GM's whose first round record looks far FAR worse than Hurney's and does not come close to your assertion of "almost a hit and no miss". That assertion is stretching things a bit and I think if you stop and consider it you'll realize that.

LOL LOL and LOL

[Doc Holiday]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Not actually familiar with any of that.

Afraid I do have to tell you one thing though, Doc. You're wrong about the Otah pick. We actually did trade a future first-round her to move up and take him. We had to because our first Round 1 pick was already used on Jonathan Stewart.

That was the first of the two times that Hurney pulled that particular stunt. The second was the following year when we traded up for Everett Brown.

I can find you a link if you need, but I figure just hearing the details might jog your memory enough.

I'm saying we didnt trade an extra fist rounder, Otah was only 1 first round pick, 19th in 2008 (From philly for the panthers 28(2009), 43, 109).

thats all I was staying, its still only a one 1st round pick overall. the Everette Brown pick was a complete indefensible pick as well as the Edwards one. 

[Toomers]

9 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

Wow another poster calling out toomer for his shenanigans......shocking 

 

Nope. Just another poster who was proven wrong and doesn’t seem to be taking this well. You two should get along well. Maybe he has a room for rent. 
 

   I would think that people would quit questioning me on salary cap and Kalil’s contract specifically. The next time I’m wrong on it, will be the first. And that includes OTC and Sportrac who both screwed it up. 
 

And, in case you didn’t notice, I’m completely defending Hurney here and blasting Gettleman. I would never do that would I. I guess I have to because the Hurney worshippers don’t have the intelligence to. You do realize that your new buddy is trying to lay Kalil’s contract at Marty’s feet. 
 

So am I right? Or is Marty responsible for Kalils contract? Choose carefully.

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, Doc Holiday said:

I'm saying we didnt trade an extra fist rounder, Otah was only 1 first round pick, 19th in 2008 (From philly for the panthers 28(2009), 43, 109).

thats all I was staying, its still only a one 1st round pick overall. the Everette Brown pick was a complete indefensible pick as well as the Edwards one. 

That's a bit of semantics there.

I always look at it as whatever picks we trade to move up count as being used to take that particular player. I can see viewing it differently if you trade down, but not up.

I think that's probably most people, but if you don't see it that way I guess that's just a difference of opinion.

[Mr. Scot]

As a side note Doc, didn't think a parody thread would turn into an actual argument, did you? 

[Doc Holiday]

16 minutes ago, Toomers said:

Any time you’re ready to tell me what I was wrong about, we can talk all day. But until then, you just came in here and said I was wrong, and wouldn’t admit it, because you said so. So who doesn’t want to be wrong again. 
 

We have all seen the thread. Recently. So let’s pull it up and you can show me the kill clause that Hurney didn’t use. Tell me exactly what Hurney did wrong on Kalils contract. Because you sure never have yet. Let’s go to the thread. 
 

 

You were saying that there wasnt a kill clause in Kalil's contract and there was(Before Hurney removed it), I pointed out said fact and you refused to recognize it. Nothing more to say on the matter, youre the one who keeps posting it as if you won the argument, you only simply chose to ignore what I was saying. ignoring did not equal winning.

Btw the link bellow talks about that thing you pretended didn't exist. man you really should have googled it like I told you too

https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2018/02/26/panthers-change-matt-kalils-contract-but-get-no-cap-savings/

Yeah this is where the thug life sunglasses come out. ROFL

[BurnHurnBurn]

35 minutes ago, Doc Holiday said:

not accurate, Otah was a single first round pick though, we didnt trade an exta 1st. I see people say we gave up 2 first round picks for Otah all the time, this is simply not true.

Trade was Panthers 1st in 2009(28th), 2nd 2008, 4th 2008 for the 2008 19th pick.  The Eagles ended up getting the 28th pick from the Panthers the in 2009. we made out like bandits in the draft as far as the trade goes, the value we got was outstanding. 

Otah's was a bust because he ate himself out of the league, but like I said before skill wise he looked to be a perennial All-pro coming out of the draft.

I've been down this rabbit hole before.  If Otah only cost 1 1st round pick (2009) what pick did we use to select him in 2008?

1('08)+1('09) = 2

[Doc Holiday]

10 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

As a side note Doc, didn't think a parody thread would turn into an actual argument, did you? 

No, I'm bored, Panthers seasons gone to the shitter, sometimes you just have to stir the pot and liven up the place a bit lol 

[heel31ok]

4 hours ago, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

If Hurney was 25% as good as he is in the first round in the rest of the draft we'd have a dynasty.

Or if we were as good at development ...