Hurney should stay on with the Panthers...

[Car123]

Take that L and move on Scot!

[Toomers]

7 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Again, I appreciate that.

Had you not posted the actual quote, either I'd of had to have dug it up myself or it would have just been my word against yours.

Since you did it for me, people can now read it for themselves and see just how badly you got it wrong.

So again, thanks 

Hey....last week the “Search” thing was supposedly messed up, or that was what I was told was the reason. 

Funny how that fixed itself. 

[Doc Holiday]

3 hours ago, BurnHurnBurn said:

Took me a minute to figure out what you did there with Otah and Brown representing the 1st round picks we didn't have b/c of the trades.  Fair enough, carry on.

not accurate, Otah was a single first round pick though, we didnt trade an exta 1st. I see people say we gave up 2 first round picks for Otah all the time, this is simply not true.

Trade was Panthers 1st in 2009(28th), 2nd 2008, 4th 2008 for the 2008 19th pick.  The Eagles ended up getting the 28th pick from the Panthers the in 2009. we made out like bandits in the draft as far as the trade goes, the value we got was outstanding. 

Otah's was a bust because he ate himself out of the league, but like I said before skill wise he looked to be a perennial All-pro coming out of the draft.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, Car123 said:

Why would you state that theory if you were 100% happy about the pick? You of all people would never give a hint of credit to JR for a good Gettleman acquisition.

Let's try again.. 

There are people who believe the Earth is flat.

There are also people who believe the Apollo moon landing was faked.

And finally, there are people who believe that vaccinations cause autism.

Now, did I just say that I believe those things or did I just mention the existence of theories and ideas?

If you answer correctly, you undermine your own posts in this thread.

If you answer incorrectly, you look like an idiot.

Your choice...

[CPF4LIFE]

2 hours ago, Car123 said:

When CMC sucked his rookie year Scot and company blamed JR for forcing him to pick both CMC and Samuel. They stated that it was unlike Gettleman to select such players. Now that MCCAFFREY is good, they want to give Gettleman all the credit. I have not FORGOTTEN.

Neither have i.

[Car123]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Let's try again.. 

There are people who believe the Earth is flat.

There are also people who believe the Apollo moon landing was faked.

And finally, there are people who believe that vaccinations cause autism.

Now, did I just say that I believe those things or did I just mention the existence of theories and ideas?

If you answer correctly, you undermine your own posts in this thread.

If you answer incorrectly, you look like an idiot.

Your choice...

Here you go again changing the direction of the conversation when losing an argument. A classic tactic of Scot.

[Car123]

Just now, CPF4LIFE said:

Neither have i.

Another one remembers. Take your L, Scot.

[Doc Holiday]

20 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Actually he didn't.

He mischaracterized what was written, something he probably would have had an easier time getting away with had he not quoted the actual post. since he quoted it for me, it wasn't necessary for me to dig it up to show that he was reading it wrong. as it is, he's now having to go with the desperate strategy of suggesting that I meant something other than what I actually said.

Stupid, but what else is he going to do at this point? 

So no, that's not a "win". It's actually closer to him shooting himself in the foot.

I don't even talk to Toomers anymore, not since the "contract kill clause argument." Bro literally ignored everything I was saying because he didn't want to be wrong, ain't got time for that juvenile crap. 

[Cpt slay a ho]

15 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Actually he didn't.

He mischaracterized what was written, something he probably would have had an easier time getting away with had he not quoted the actual post. since he quoted it for me, it wasn't necessary for me to dig it up to show that he was reading it wrong. as it is, he's now having to go with the desperate strategy of suggesting that I meant something other than what I actually said.

Stupid, but what else is he going to do at this point? 

So no, that's not a "win". It's actually closer to him shooting himself in the foot.

Didn’t dig too deep into who was right or wrong, and I’m not in the debate yous guys are currently having, but the poster i quoted came at  him like he was just going to try and quote another poster saying dg was force to draft cmc and pass it off as you.

He had a reference point and used it shortly after, but by then cpt jump to conclusion had already put his foot in his mouth. 

now whether your quoted post meant what was stated is the semantics you guys are debating, I just wanted to point out the one poster who is quick to hop in prematurely constantly
 

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, Car123 said:

Another one remembers. Take your L, Scot.

Nah.

You already posted the evidence disproving your own suggestion. Basically, you did my work for me. now you're flailing around trying to distract from your own mistake  any way you can.

Thanks again for that. Gotta say it's hilarious 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

Didn’t dig too deep into who was right or wrong, and I’m not in the debate yous guys are currently having, but the poster i quoted came at  him like he was just going to try and quote another poster saying dg was force to draft cmc and pass it off as you.

He had a reference point and used it shortly after, but by then cpt jump to conclusion had already put his foot in his mouth. 

now whether your quoted post meant what was stated is the semantics you guys are debating, I just wanted to point out the one poster who is quick to hop in prematurely constantly
 

I wouldn't dig too deep into that if I were you either 

[1of10Charnatives]

1 hour ago, Forty-Eight said:

Like I said, please show me the multiple GMS that suck at drafting in the 1st round. The 1st round is almost a hit and no miss. 
 

 

Really?

I haven't gone and done the research on this question, but you do realize that you are including the GM's of Cleveland, Buffalo pre Beane, Cincinnati, Detroit, Miami, etc etc in this. Are you really sure if I go digging around in those GM's draft history what we'll see is a bunch of hits and almost no misses? 

Again, the standard we are talking about here is not super bowl winning GM's. We're all in agreement that Hurney has fallen short. Where we differ is that I think his first round record is solid and you're claiming that drafting in the first round is a no brainer. While I'll grant you that the most success is found in that round, I invite you to reconsider the extent of your assertion, because I'm pretty sure if I start looking I can find muliple GM's whose first round record looks far FAR worse than Hurney's and does not come close to your assertion of "almost a hit and no miss". That assertion is stretching things a bit and I think if you stop and consider it you'll realize that.

[Mr. Scot]

8 minutes ago, Doc Holiday said:

I don't even talk to Toomers anymore, not since the "contract kill clause argument." Bro literally ignored everything I was saying because he didn't want to be wrong, ain't got time for that juvenile crap. 

Not actually familiar with any of that.

Afraid I do have to tell you one thing though, Doc. You're wrong about the Otah pick. We actually did trade a future first-rounder to move up and take him. We had to because our first Round 1 pick was already used on Jonathan Stewart.

That was the first of the two times that Hurney pulled that particular stunt. The second was the following year when we traded up for Everett Brown.

I can find you a link if you need, but I figure just hearing the details might jog your memory enough.

[Doc Holiday]

2 minutes ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

Really?

I haven't gone and done the research on this question, but you do realize that you are including the GM's of Cleveland, Buffalo pre Beane, Cincinnati, Detroit, Miami, etc etc in this. Are you really sure if I go digging around in those GM's draft history what we'll see is a bunch of hits and almost no misses? 

Again, the standard we are talking about here is not super bowl winning GM's. We're all in agreement that Hurney has fallen short. Where we differ is that I think his first round record is solid and you're claiming that drafting in the first round is a no brainer. While I'll grant you that the most success is found in that round, I invite you to reconsider the extent of your assertion, because I'm pretty sure if I start looking I can find muliple GM's whose first round record looks far FAR worse than Hurney's and does not come close to your assertion of "almost a hit and no miss". That assertion is stretching things a bit and I think if you stop and consider it you'll realize that.

Don't waste your time with him, he says crazy stuff to be noticed, nothing too anything he says. like when he made a post about head coaches and pretty much named every coordinator in the league plus two guys that Scot and I where talking about in another thread. he just wants to noticed.