Breaking down the final play

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

Both are absolute dogshit but when you have five seconds to throw it’s not on the OL. 

It wouldn't even have taken that long.

There was a window two, maybe two and a half seconds in. Just didn't take it.

[joeyxfresco]

7 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Anyone propping up this OL to spite Kyle Allen is off their meds.  This OL is a flaming pile of garbage.

Can’t say that without someone starting a thread in AllPro about “not having a civil discussion”

[TheRed]

Just now, AceBoogie said:

OL has been trash since Gettleman forced Gross into retirement and failed to replace him while drafting a million DTs. Still, he had plenty of time to make the play there and didn’t. 

The 2016 draft really sped up our downfall. We needed to knock it out of the park following a crushing Super Bowl loss. If we end up letting James Bradberry walk, that's an entire draft that might as well have never happened. Just crazy levels of ineptitude.

[45catfan]

1 minute ago, Carl Spackler said:

Both are absolute dogshit but when you have five seconds to throw it’s not on the OL. 

He had a brief window to throw it when the DB got picked/rubbed.  Allen was coming off the initial read.  Had he thrown it right then, maybe it could have been a TD.  By that time TWO of our O-lineman were giving up a pressure and he started to fade back.   Wright still looked open, but the DB was already bearing down.  We will never know if Allen could have beat the DB in scramble mode.

[Anybodyhome]

My breakdown of the final play:

• If you were still watching the game at this point, you're a sucker.
• If you were thinking after 3 1/2 quarters of miserable football against a 2-win team was suddenly going to change, you're a sucker.
• If you weren't embarrassed by the ass-whoopin' dished out by a 2-win team and thought this game was winnable, you're a sucker.
• If you think the final play of this game was the turning point... I got nothin' for ya.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, 45catfan said:

He had a brief window to throw it when the DB got picked/rubbed.  Allen was coming off the initial read.  Had he thrown it right then, maybe it could have been a TD.  By that time TWO of our O-lineman were giving up a pressure and he started to fade back.   Wright still looked open, but the DB was already bearing down.  We will never know if Allen could have beat the DB in scramble mode.

He had a second window as well, but shut it by turning backwards.

If he'd stepped forward instead, The defensive lineman probably goes right past him and he has a very makeable shot.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, Anybodyhome said:

My breakdown of the final play:

• If you were still watching the game at this point, you're a sucker.
• If you were thinking after 3 1/2 quarters of miserable football against a 2-win team was suddenly going to change, you're a sucker.
• If you weren't embarrassed by the ass-whoopin' dished out by a 2-win team and thought this game was winnable, you're a sucker.
• If you think the final play of this game was the turning point... I got nothin' for ya.

Valid, but still hurts.

Someone else said that as soon as they saw DJ Moore didn't get in the end zone, they figured it was over. That thought crossed my mind too but I was still hopeful.

Unfortunately...

[ChibCU]

2 minutes ago, TheRed said:

The 2016 draft really sped up our downfall. We needed to knock it out of the park following a crushing Super Bowl loss. If we end up letting James Bradberry walk, that's an entire draft that might as well have never happened. Just crazy levels of ineptitude.

Well, there are a couple dozen drafts across the league each year that might as well have never happened if the measure of success is a Super Bowl.

Truth is, outside of the Patriots, the majority of players drafted by franchises don’t influence a Super Bowl. 

[AceBoogie]

3 minutes ago, TheRed said:

The 2016 draft really sped up our downfall. We needed to knock it out of the park following a crushing Super Bowl loss. If we end up letting James Bradberry walk, that's an entire draft that might as well have never happened. Just crazy levels of ineptitude.

Well we’re heading into the biggest offseason in franchise history. I’m selling my PSLs if Ron comes back. 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, AceBoogie said:

Well we’re heading into the biggest offseason in franchise history. I’m selling my PSLs if Ron comes back. 

I'm not in favor of bringing Ron or Marty back.

It's time for Jerry Richardson football to be dead and buried.

[LinvilleGorge]

33 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

What's weird there is that at least for the first couple of series, it looked like Washington wasn't going to handle him very well.

Whatever they adjusted, they got it right.

Not one of the first few dozen times we've seen Rivera's staff get thoroughly out-coached in-game.

[TheRed]

2 minutes ago, ChibCU said:

Well, there are a couple dozen drafts across the league each year that might as well have never happened if the measure of success is a Super Bowl.

Truth is, outside of the Patriots, the majority of players drafted by franchises don’t influence a Super Bowl. 

I think maybe you are misunderstanding the post. I didn't say measure of success was only playing in the Super Bowl. The point was we had just been there and still had a core intact to make another playoff run at the very least. Cam and Luke in their prime on each side of the ball? We fugged it up. The Saints seem to be doing alright thanks to their recent drafts. Even with their starting QB missing time.

All in all it looks like the only way forward in Carolina is to clean house entirely.

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Not one of the first few dozen times we've seen Rivera's staff get thoroughly out-coached in-game.

Yeah. Sad to say it but no argument on that.

[AceBoogie]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'm not in favor of bringing Ron or Marty back.

It's time for Jerry Richardson football to be dead and buried.

We lost to a team at home that fired their coach mid season who started a QB they told the world wasn’t ready to play. Ron shouldn’t make it to the podium tomorrow.