If we lose out, we get a high draft pick

[Car123]

1 minute ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Already disproved your argument.

Now go ahead and move the goalpost.

Well go ahead root against us in every game next season!

[uncc03]

How about fug Rivera 

[ForJimmy]

Jim Harbaugh will have a nice pick.

[Davidson Deac II]

Cleveland gets high draft picks every year, doesn't matter much.  Its better to have more draft picks in the first four rounds.  If we could get a top 10 pick and trade it for a later first and a second, that would be idea.

[firefox1234]

10 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Cleveland gets high draft picks every year, doesn't matter much.  Its better to have more draft picks in the first four rounds.  If we could get a top 10 pick and trade it for a later first and a second, that would be idea.

Depends on who and what positions we wanna draft. If its mainly interior OL then moving down while collecting more draft picks isnt a bad move.

[Davidson Deac II]

9 hours ago, stbugs said:

Cleveland sucked at drafting in the 1st. That's why they aren't as good as they should be. Look at the 11 picks below in 7 years. They had 4 extra 1st rounders (lots of trades) and they got basically nothing for all those 1st rounders. That's how they turned high draft picks into a shitty team year after year. They are the worst example. SF, on the other hand, parlayed Jimmy G being hurt into Nick Bosa. We turned our poo 2016 season into CMC. The Browns turned 4-12, 5-11 and 4-12 into Trent Richardson, Barkevious Mingo and Justin Gilbert. LOL.

2017	25	Jabrill Peppers	SAF	Michigan
2017	29	David Njoku	TE	Miami (Fla.)
2016	15	Corey Coleman	WR	Baylor
2015	12	Danny Shelton	DT	Washington
2015	19	Cameron Erving	T	Florida State
2014	8	Justin Gilbert	CB	Oklahoma State
2014	22	Johnny Manziel	QB	Texas A&M
2013	6	Barkevious Mingo	OLB	LSU
2012	3	Trent Richardson	RB	Alabama
2012	22	Brandon Weeden	QB	Oklahoma State
2011	21	Phillip Taylor	DT	Baylor

They aren't the only ones.  Cleveland is the example at the bottom, while SF is probably at the top, but even as good as San Francisco is now, they are still only 3 out of 6 or so with first round picks over the last four years.  They have had two #2 picks in the last three yearsand at least one of them is like to be a bust at this point (solomon thomas).  At least in relation to where he was picked. 

And if you look at the first qb taken in each draft for the last 10 years, its not exactly encouraging.  Only two superbowl appearances among all 10, Cam and Jarred Goff.  Luck was ok, but injured a lot.  Jury is still out on Murray and Mayfield, but the rest of them were a long list of wasted picks.  

Draft is a crapshoot, and losing to get a higher pick rarely if ever works out.

 

[Jaxel]

As long as we are in the run for one of the 3 QBs then thats good. Otherwise, in line for a good Olineman or Dlineman would be second.

[Davidson Deac II]

1 hour ago, stbugs said:

It can be, but top 10 picks are on average way better. Look at some of the crap drafts like 2016. Once you get out of the top 10, it’s garbage but the top 10 was solid. It’s rare to have a 2013 draft where it was better after the top.

Perhaps, but is there enough of a difference to concern yourself with finishing 4th vs 8th, ie tanking to get a higher pick?  Imo, losing is a mindset, and the only way to break it is to start winning and gain confidence.  I look at 2014, and how we were at one point as bad or worse than we are this year.  Then we started winning towards the end of the season, and even though it only netted us one playoff win, it gave us confidence heading into the next season.  

On the flip side, I think all the end game failures starting with last year's washington game have played into the lack of confidence the team seems to have this year when we get into crunch time.  A losing mentality is a hard thing to get rid of.  

 

Personally having 7-8 picks in the top 100 is even better.  Hard to get, but worth it if you can. 

 

[tiger7_88]

6 hours ago, beastson said:

5-11 sounds nice. If we lose, we lose

 

 

Trust Tinkle-Bell Testicles Tepper (TTT) to leave Rivera in charge to make his customary 2-3 useless and ineffective December wins to ruin our draft position.

[BurnHurnBurn]

Rivera will never allow that to happen.  It makes too much sense to tank.  Rivera gonna Rivera and butt fumble his way to a win or 2 that cost us 10 draft spots.

[tiger7_88]

6 hours ago, Panfan35 said:

Me too!!!! Why not give the next coach a good pick come on Ron be a giver

People have made threads about "Why remove Ron now and disrespect him?" threads.

This is fugging why.

[BurnHurnBurn]

4 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

Jim Harbaugh will have a nice pick.

The guy that just got blown out at home by his arch rival again?  Just go ahead and stab my eyes out now.

[tiger7_88]

6 hours ago, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

Yep, Saints rest starters. We drop 6 spots. Homers say this was an inspirational win against Saints backups and Ron should be back next year

Wait... didn't you get the memo?

The Saints were trying 100% at the end of the season last year and weren't trying any intra-divisional fuggery against their divisional opponents.

At all!

It was a great win for Ron Rivera and Kyle Allen!

[ForJimmy]

7 hours ago, BurnHurnBurn said:

The guy that just got blown out at home by his arch rival again?  Just go ahead and stab my eyes out now.

Nick Saban couldn’t have his success in the NFL. Some can coach one better than the other. Jim is a great NFL coach, just look at his record.