This fan base has absolutely checked out of this season in a way I haven't seen since 2010

[mc52beast]

Fans have very good reasons to not show up at games and be pessimistic about our future. Panthers have been in existence for 2.5 decades and have been mediocre for the majority of that time. 
 

Going into this year we were supposed to be excited about a defense led by the mastermind Ron Rivera. Is anyone excited about the product you see on game day? Probably not.

We were excited about finally getting a healthy Cam back. He gets injured and somehow Ron decides to let him keep playing even though it’s clear to anyone with one good eye that he shouldn’t be on the field. Now he’s on IR and who knows what will happen going forward.

Just seems like most years there are horrible decisions made that cost us valuable players and wins. Am hoping that the “Wizard of Wall Street” takes his investment seriously and turns things around 

[Asurfaholic]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Previously, it had a lot to do with the fact that the games where we faced a truly good team, we folded.

Then this past weekend we faced a terrible team... and folded.

Probably shouldn't be that shocking.

Falcons have not been terrible. Saying this is just looking at their 2-7 record they held walking into the game, but their stats showed a different story. They were competitive and not a sorry team. If they were terrible we are a dumpster fire. but I don’t believe that either.

[pnthrs]

1 hour ago, Zaximus said:

But it's not temporary.    Nothing has shown that.   This franchise has been consistently inconsistent.   If anything, this season is pretty normal for the team.    People are just not going crazy when it's time for down years which always happens.    Have winning back to back seasons, go to playoffs more, give the fans a reason to invest year to year and this will build a fan base.    I'm banking on Tepper's competitive spirit and ego to get this team on track, not the bottom line.   He didn't buy this team to make money.    Besides profit sharing almost guarentees no owner is going to have money issues.    

Being consistently inconsistent is temporary by its very nature.  Being a consistently inconsistent team means that when we suck we will consistently be inconsistent at sucking.  Unfortunately when we win, we will be consistently inconsistent at winning.  Thats being a Panther fan at its core.  

Also, if anyone here thinks Tepper is not focused on making money and profits from this football investment they have not meet or researched David Tepper, or been watching over the past 18 months at the framework of what he is laying down.  This isn't a plaything for him.  This is next level business and he is going to absolutely squeeze every ounce of profitability out of this venture and all ancillary ventures.  He absolutely bought this team to make money.  Owning an NFL franchise is one of the best investments a person with 11 billion dollars can make.  He isn't just sitting back watching football - he is actively expanding the entire footprint of what a football team is capable of earning.  

 

He is moving massive facilities (front office, elite training fields and buildings) to SC and purchasing land around that which will certainly be for parking, entertainment, commercial, housing and office in time.   I am sure that will double as a venue for many other things (like MLS training facility, concerts, festivals etc...)  He is already working on an uptown land site for a new stadium which will be domed for maximum revenue generation.  He is prepping the city to invest along side himself for a new stadium.  The scope of what Tepper is doing here is going to be on scale with Jerryworld in the next 10 years and will likely surpass Jerryworld since Tepper can take Jerrys blueprint and take it to the next level.  

[Mr. Scot]

4 minutes ago, Asurfaholic said:

Falcons have not been terrible. Saying this is just looking at their 2-7 record they held walking into the game, but their stats showed a different story. They were competitive and not a sorry team. If they were terrible we are a dumpster fire. but I don’t believe that either.

Disagree. 2-7 is terrible. Doesn't matter what your stats are. And they imploded more than once.

As to us, we are what I feared we were: a team that's good enough to beat bad teams but not good enough to compete with the better ones.

[PhillyB]

cam may be done, there are like four people remaining in the fanbase that think kyle allen may be a legitimate candidate for the panthers starting job, the defense is broken, the offense is sleepwalking, ron is on death row, and we're about to face the hardest part of our schedule.

i am usually an eternal optimist, and i'll watch the rest of our games like i always do, like i did in 2010, but i am now emotionally checked out and i hold out zero hope for more than two wins for the remainder of the season. 

[thefuzz]

Just now, PhillyB said:

cam may be done, there are like four people remaining in the fanbase that think kyle allen may be a legitimate candidate for the panthers starting job, the defense is broken, the offense is sleepwalking, ron is on death row, and we're about to face the hardest part of our schedule.

i am usually an eternal optimist, and i'll watch the rest of our games like i always do, like i did in 2010, but i am now emotionally checked out and i hold out zero hope for more than two wins for the remainder of the season. 

Squints.......

Yup, this checks out.

[t96]

2 minutes ago, stbugs said:

I think there’s different levels obviously. I’m still watching. Heck, I watch the combine and preseason so a few more games even if we’re out isn’t much of a commitment. I just care a lot less because I know we’re pretty much done. CMC alone is enough to keep me going.

Yeah I stop getting too upset with losses later in a poor season like this.

[Mr. Scot]

11 minutes ago, t96 said:

Yeah I stop getting too upset with losses later in a poor season like this.

That doesn't really say much for our leadership though, does it?

[Mr. Scot]

10 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Welp, they’re 3-7 now and they are clearly a better team the last two weeks than they were at any point before. Let’s not act like they weren’t talented and they weren’t expected to do better. We needed to win but it wasn’t like losing to the Redskins. Damn, if we lose that one, we really hit rock bottom. We thought rock bottom was week 2, but we are at that same spot after a high point before SF. Lose badly to NO and to the Redskins and we’re in 2010. 

Technically, every team in the NFL, Redskins and Bengals included, is talented.

What I fear is us doing something crazy like beating the Saints and then turning around and losing to the Redskins.

[Wolfpack352]

I've mentally checked out mostly because I still see Ron's face on the sidelines, and some of it of getting embarasssed defensively. I mean even if we lose but make it a fight dammit.  But my heart is still in it and remain hopeful we will become elite once more.  I'll cling onto whatever shred of hope we have for the panthers till I die.  

[pantherj]

Although CMC is a fan favorite and great RB, there are a lot of casual fans who don't care as much about running plays. When you go from gigantic Cam Newton running around and flipping into the endzone, throwing bombs, and running over defenders, to Kyle Allen throwing check downs, you are bound to see a major drop off in interest.

The return of Cam Newton next season (assuming he recovers) will instantly bring fans back into the stadium and restore interest levels.

If Cam can't recover, then it's pretty much obvious that we need a superstar QB, not only to fill the stadium, but to have a legit chance at winning the SB. Drafting a great QB is not some distant pipe dream, but we need to move up in the draft to have the best chance at securing the best prospect.

The good news. We have a decent chance of losing out and moving as far up as we possibly could at this point.

The bad news. We could beat the Colts, Redskins, and Saints backups, and end up 8-8. Nightmare scenario.

 

[Mr. Scot]

I'd throw in one other factor...

I can't speak for everybody, but I still feel the sting of that Steelers game last year.

With that still relatively fresh in our minds, we got the 49ers game.

And then with the trauma of both of those still in our heads, we got this past week's Falcons game.

each of those things was demoralizing on their own. When you stack them together? Ouch.

[X-Clown]

47 minutes ago, Asurfaholic said:

Falcons have not been terrible. Saying this is just looking at their 2-7 record they held walking into the game, but their stats showed a different story. They were competitive and not a sorry team. If they were terrible we are a dumpster fire. but I don’t believe that either.

In their 6 game losing streak leading up to the Saints game, they had given up almost 34 points a game and scored only 21.5, which is almost a 2 TD deficit at the end of each game.  Several of those games had the Falcons scoring multiple TDs late when the defenses backed off.

[pantherphan96]

1 hour ago, Jeremy Igo said:

I warned of this in January.

 

Another year of the same would diminish the fan base in a big way and why Ron should have been fired then.

 

Hopefully, Tepper learned his lesson.

 

Imagine yet another year of this crap.

Get rid of Cam and get prepared for 3-4 more years of it. Franchise QBs are rare.