The Grier Question

[LinvilleGorge]

5 minutes ago, musicman said:

On a side note, I talked with Grier today for a couple of minutes. Nice guy, real chill. 

and then...???

[electro's horse]

10 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

and then...???

well obviously they had sex

[Davidson Deac II]

On 11/20/2019 at 2:11 PM, Mr. Scot said:

An evaluation brought to you by the guy who believed Amini Silatolu was better than Andrew Norwell.

Granted, you have Turner's input as well but still...

Allen did play better than Grier in preseason.  Significantly better.  Not that allen was great, but Grier was really bad.  

[rippadonn]

11 hours ago, musicman said:

On a side note, I talked with Grier today for a couple of minutes. Nice guy, real chill. 

Yeah, but does he have moxie?

[Jeremy Igo]

Grier is indeed very well liked in the building by everyone. Genuinely a good dude. 

[raz]

2 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

Yeah, but does he have moxie?

i don't believe he does

[raz]

18 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Ron has expressed that he wants to develop him, which is an oxymo-ron.

 

ftfy

[therealmjl]

On 11/20/2019 at 2:17 PM, Snake said:

I'm just speaking the truth. It's not really a surprise Allen and almost everyone else not named McCaffrey is doing terrible now. It's because we have hit the hard part of our schedule. Now people are panicking or just want to prove Allen is horrible because they got butt hurt when he was successful against mediocre teams. 

You’re speaking your truth

[electro's horse]

noted hard part of the schedule atlanta falcons

[Snake]

1 hour ago, mjligon said:

You’re speaking your truth

You just don't like the truth because it doesn't fit your narrative. 

[onmyown]

21 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Tracking as the third worst in YDS/GM and second worst in league ranking so far.

Wow I was just kind of poo talking based on what I see on Sunday’s. But you have provided literal stats that confirm this nightmare.

Tonight feels like a whiskey night.

[MHS831]

You want to improve the QB position?

Improve the offensive line.

Improve the defense.  Give him more shots and don't ask him to try to make plays down 2 scores.

Not saying Allen is great, but I am saying that you cannot evaluate the QB position without mentioning all key variables. To think Grier will be able to overcome these things is insane.

[ImaginaryKev]

On 11/20/2019 at 10:44 AM, Mr. Scot said:

This is a debate that's been whispered around the edges of some of the other discussion, but I thought I'd go ahead and speak it aloud.

If the Panthers were eliminated from playoff contention (a serious possibility at this point) would you want to play out the rest of the season with Will Grier as the starting quarterback?

Some have pointed out that we'd have nothing to lose by seeing what we have in him. Others have suggested that you take the risk of giving him David Carr syndrome by sticking him behind our current offensive line.

What's your take? Would you give him a shot?

Do you believe Ron Rivera would give him a shot?

If Allen stinks it up again yes, we should see if our third round pick QB is better at protecting the football going forward. Being afraid of ruining a QB like Carr is just...cowardly if you are serious about evaluating what you have at the position. 

[SBiii]

This week Kyle Bailey had a guy on his show who said he noticed Grier was off the sidelines for an extended period during the 2nd half of the Falcons game....

....his thesis was Grier was back underneath the stadium warming up.

Ultimately Grier didn't get in but this guy (whose name I don't recall) is of the opinion Grier is closer to getting live game-reps than most people think.