Have the Panthers redeemed themsleves?

[Kevin Greene]

Is the monkey off their backs from the meltdwon in last years playoffs?

[Brandon]

No. There are still two major liabilities that didn't change in this game, Delhomme and Davidson. I'm more convinced Delhomme can bounce back but at this point in time I still see no reason to stick with him...

Davidson on the other hand completely shut down our own offense in the second half and if it wasn't for some great plays on defense we would have lost the game after a 21 point lead. That is inexcusable. Not only that but our selection of pass plays were awful in the second half, we didn't do anything to force them away from 8-9 in the box.

[civileng68]

I'll say "no" because I dont think that game was the monkey. I think the monkey was starting 0-3 and going into this game 2-4.

It was a nice win and I'll hold on to it for a week. I think the problems wont change until Fox is gone. Example: We had the ball with nearly a minute and a half left, had our timeouts and the ball at midfield and Fox wouldnt even try to get 20 yards to FG range. He's far too passive with a win and you cant win big games like that in the long run.

I also think Delhomme has trouble reading defenses. When pressured he's a totally different QB than when he has time. Not even remotely similar. I noticed today he totally dismisses backside receivers when he's pressured. He had some wide open dump passes on the back side tonight and didnt see them.

I love Delhomme personally. I really feel bad for him. I think there are multiple problems but I think one is coaching. I think they HAVE to change at HC and OC. Just my take.

[civileng68]

I'm more convinced Delhomme can bounce back but at this point in time I still see no reason to stick with him...

So what's the option with Delhomme? Moore? Moore has shown nothing. Also, Delhomme has a 42.5 million dollar contract. If they get rid of him, someone's gotta lose their job for that one.

[rayzor]

as much as i loved that win....it isn't over. t could be that they have turned the corner but they have a long ways to go before they can show they have.

remember, the raiders beat the eagles. it's just one game.

there are still issues with the QB and playcalling but the defense looked incredible. martin at FS was great. peppers keeps improving.

i have more faith now but there are still some huge games head.

if they can somehow beat the saints next week i might start drinking the koolaid again.

[Sword]

we have 0 room for error so we can't be picking any more bad days..

[Jangler]

ask me again when we are 12-4.

[Pantherman]

Moore has shown nothing. I goes the 2 wins and 1 loss in his rookie year ain't good enough for some people this board. And people all of a sudden started talking bad about Moore today after he throw a floater out to the sidelines to a TE that was slightly overthrown. What do people expect out of Moore when coaches don't give him a chance to prove crap. aleast that pass he throw on 3and 2nd wasn't no where near been int like most of Jakes has been all year. Plus what do you expect when Moore is suddenly throwed into the game and only has one pass the whole game. People are quick to judge moore who has yet really play this year. Only in a few snaps and most of them was handoffs to the RBs. So leave Moore alone.

[civileng68]

In many ways you are absolutely right. I cant dispute it. I dont blame anything on Moore today. Im just saying that he didnt impress me at all when Delhomme went down a couple years ago. sure he was young and he hasnt had many chances to come in but, I assume the coaches see him everyday in practice and he's done nothing to take the starting job from Jake. I'm not against Moore as a 2nd string QB. I simply want a good starting QB. I can assume since Moore has fulfilled his full contract after this season and has done nothing in practice to take over the job, he's not going to be a stud starting QB.

That's all I'm saying. Not knocking him. I just dont think he's a long term solution, and if he's not, then you definately play the 42 million dollar man.

[Kevin Greene]

ask me again when we are 12-4.

Would beating Breesus suffice?

[Davidson Deac II]

In the NFL, you are only as good as your last game. Lose next week, and look bad doing it, and any positives from this game will be gone.

[PantherBrew]

Hey, we have won 3 of the last 4. lol

[iBBB]

the curse has been past on to kurt now. demons will leave us alone

[Scutty]

They have redeemed themselves for the loss to the Cards last year but they haven't redeemed themselves for the way they've been playing this season.