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arbnranger

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“ Creepy Line” 

Have you seen it ?  Obviously it’s swayed in a certain direction but it definitely shows the route that things can go. A lot Of truth there. 

I don’t think there is an “all seeing entity” or group that is controlling things like the  Illuminati. That’s fun for thought and imagination  but there is something driving the trend to be reliant on what you see on you phone .

If you notice, I say “on your phone” 

The internet (for most) has been around for a couple of minutes. (decades) We didn’t have this sort of “pull” when we could only go on to AOL, Netscape  or any of your various local internet providers that would complete your email in [email protected] 

I guess what I’m asking is ...with all this anxiousness and division ...With The complications (and admittedly the awesomeness of tech) ... of the cell phone and more specifically,  the ability to reach others in real time, is It causing too many expectations to try and live up to ?

how many times have you called someone that you just sent a text to or just spoke to and they send you directly to voice mail...are you al little pissed off? (I have been admittedly and I’m old school ) 

You don’t have to answer Yes because it’s everyone . How many times have you not received a text back within 5 minutes and said  “ok well they are pissed at me for something ?’ Everyone . 
 

it’s weird man . I could go on but I’ll leave this for discussion. 
 

—What do you think contributes to the decline of online social discourse for you personally ? 
 

—Do you think  how you deal with individuals online effects how you deal with people in real life ? 
 

Just for fun , would love to hear your real  thoughts. 

I think this it’s good to hear some rational thought because we are basically babies trying to deal with this new technology. 
 

 

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On 11/16/2019 at 11:21 PM, arbnranger said:

—What do you think contributes to the decline of online social discourse for you personally ?

The lack or personal experience, knowledge or information which considers many different schools of thought or presents information in a non-biased manner. Google search and Wikipedia have replaced Encyclopedia Britannica; Breitbart, Huffpost and other opinion publications have replaced objective journalism. People can choose to read what fits their moral norm, rather than having the 2-3 choices I grew up with- ABC, CBS and NBC.

The increasing inability of people to have a face-to-face discussion/conversation about anything. Humans are social animals and we are mutating into a strand of non-social beings with less tolerance and understanding resulting from less social interaction. How many time do you see 2 people in a restaurant not saying anything or even looking at anything but their phone?

On 11/16/2019 at 11:21 PM, arbnranger said:

—Do you think  how you deal with individuals online effects how you deal with people in real life ? 

Personally, no. It's pretty easy for me to differentiate between the two circumstances. 

 

On 11/16/2019 at 11:21 PM, arbnranger said:

rational thought because we are basically babies trying to deal with this new technology. 

We're babies in that we're allowing technology to dictate our habits, our communication and, more importantly, we're allowing technology to exacerbate our inherent prejudices. I challenge people all the time on TB to expand their reading habits and news sources beyond their biased preferences (Fox News, CNN, HuffPost, Breitbart, etc.) and read BBC, Reuters, AP News, etc. 

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On 11/18/2019 at 9:59 AM, Anybodyhome said:

The lack or personal experience, knowledge or information which considers many different schools of thought or presents information in a non-biased manner. Google search and Wikipedia have replaced Encyclopedia Britannica; Breitbart, Huffpost and other opinion publications have replaced objective journalism. People can choose to read what fits their moral norm, rather than having the 2-3 choices I grew up with- ABC, CBS and NBC.

The increasing inability of people to have a face-to-face discussion/conversation about anything. Humans are social animals and we are mutating into a strand of non-social beings with less tolerance and understanding resulting from less social interaction. How many time do you see 2 people in a restaurant not saying anything or even looking at anything but their phone?

Personally, no. It's pretty easy for me to differentiate between the two circumstances. 

 

We're babies in that we're allowing technology to dictate our habits, our communication and, more importantly, we're allowing technology to exacerbate our inherent prejudices. I challenge people all the time on TB to expand their reading habits and news sources beyond their biased preferences (Fox News, CNN, HuffPost, Breitbart, etc.) and read BBC, Reuters, AP News, etc. 

Agree, although personally I like the Atlantic, NPR, and the Economist.  Janes Defence Weekly is very good, but expensive.  

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On 11/16/2019 at 9:21 PM, arbnranger said:

—What do you think contributes to the decline of online social discourse for you personally ? 
 

—Do you think  how you deal with individuals online effects how you deal with people in real life ? 
 

Just for fun , would love to hear your real  thoughts. 

I think this it’s good to hear some rational thought because we are basically babies trying to deal with this new technology. 
 

 

Honestly I think people who bitch and say poo like I don’t like to text and I refuse to learn how to to use Facebook etc. are the extreme minority and just don’t want to advance. They want the ‘good ol days’.

Advancing as society or really just as people doesn’t have to be liked but it’s the way things are so more flexible and adaptable people understand that. Is it coincidence these people are statistically happier, more successful and live significantly longer? I’ll leave that for you to ponder on.

As for the questions:

1.  I am not sure this question is phrased correctly. Decline of online social discourse? You’re implying a decline of discussion and debating online?

I assume you mean how does the ability of online/phones affect our social discourse and you’re assuming it’s in a negative way (declining).

I’d argue it’s simply a different way. And in a lot of ways, much better, smarter and more efficient. It’s not the technology, it’s the people operating them. My iphone works the same way as your iphone, but people are what makes things different. People are defined by many things.

By the way I have never been mad at someone who did not take my call and didn’t think anything other than they’re busy at the moment or simply don’t want to talk right now and if someone doesn’t text me back right away I don’t think they’re mad at all. I’m 34.

But what about younger generations? What about different relationships with different dynamics? Again, this defines people, not technology. Technology is nothing other than a new outlet. 
 

2. Is it a different atmosphere online vs. real life of course, do my interactions online differ than they do with people in real life? Definitely. Do interactions with people online affect interactions of people in person? Not really. Online is a world of anonymity and thus I’m more careful, but I’m a careful person in general.

All I can emphasize is people, not technology. Some people get addicted to online worlds like Warcraft. Some people lose interpersonal skills because they spend so much time online. Some people have no clue how to operate text or a self checkout at the grocery store because they don’t spend enough time with new technology. And yes some people get mad when they don’t hear a text back in 5 minutes but I’d warn against blaming technology for that and realize every single person is going to react differently based more on their personality and qualities as a person than they are based on new technology.

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