Kyle Allen is more Joe Flacco (Ravens era) than Tom Brady or Kirk Cousins

[PanthersNC1984]

I have been thinking and struggling on who Kyle Allen is and what he can become. Some want to crown him as our very own Tom Brady, but I don’t think his ceiling is that high. Others say he is Kirk Cousins, an ok QB that will flash greatness in rare occasions but more often than not, disappoint you, I don’t agree with that either, I think Allen is a bit more consistent and better than Cousins.

No, it finally went off like a light bulb. Joe Flacco. That is exactly Kyle Allen’s potential right there. Both are QBs that are overall consistent, however both are very much traditional, vanilla QBs. They aren’t going to dazzle you and mesmerize you, they just simply are both reliable QBs you can count on to just get the job done. 

If you look at Flacco’s stats over the years, eerily similar to Allen’s over the course of his career. Frankly, if we have a Joe Flacco on our hands (Ravens Flacco NOT crappy Broncos Flacco) then that is fine by me.

[firefox1234]

Agreed! I referenced Flacco when comparing Allen many times and I think it fits. That is also why I believe this coaching stuff needs a major turnover as I do not believe they can put the necessary pieces around Allen to get the most out of him.

[PanthersNC1984]

1 minute ago, firefox1234 said:

Agreed! I referenced Flacco when comparing Allen many times and I think it fits. That is also why I believe this coaching stuff needs a major turnover as I do not believe they can put the necessary pieces around Allen to get the most out of him.

See I’m not so sure about that, the coaching part I mean. Infact Kyle Allen/Flacco seems just exactly the type of QB a Rivera led team would have. A vanilla, run of the mill QB that just goes out there and does what he has to do with a heavy run first offense. 
 

Unless we completely implode, I would be ok with keeping the current regime one more year and see what Norv and Kyle can do in a entire off season with KA as the bonafide starter

[BrianS]

Possibly a valid comparison.  The only question is arm strength for me.  I don't think Kyle has JF's arm right now.  

[PanthersNC1984]

2 minutes ago, GreensboroPirate said:

During his prime and playoff runs, Flacco had a nice long ball

The Ravens were gashing people down the field with big time plays

Joe Flacco is 6"6, had a very strong arm during his prime, 1st round draft pick

Kyle Allen is tiny, has baby sized hands, and doesn't have the arm strength to throw it deep

Kyle Allen's best comparison and upside is Case Keenum, another guy that undrafted from Houston, but could be a game manager in the right system

 

Allen is 6’3, he just needs to add some weight and strength and he will be find

[firefox1234]

Just now, PanthersNC1984 said:

See I’m not so sure about that, the coaching part I mean. Infact Kyle Allen/Flacco seems just exactly the type of QB a Rivera led team would have. A vanilla, run of the mill QB that just goes out there and does what he has to do with a heavy run first offense. 
 

Unless we completely implode, I would be ok with keeping the current regime one more year and see what Norv and Kyle can do in a entire off season with KA as the bonafide starter

This team is destined to sit around 7-9/8-8 with the current regime which is pretty much being stuck in purgatory. If we completely implode and get a hard reset that is us getting lucky. I would rather not sit another ten years of that let alone five if we can do the hard reset now.

[TheRed]

Way too early for that sort of comparison until we show we can actually throw downfield consistently to keep defenses honest.

Flacco is a Super Bowl champion and frankly played out of his mind on the Ravens playoff run that year. Deserved MVP. Yeah they obviously had a ridiculous defense but Joe willed them often that year.

[Eazy-E]

I’d say Kyle Allen at best could turn out to be a poor man’s Matt Ryan.

[gmonjimbo]

I see Kyle Allen as more of an Alex Smith type. If you surround him with an elite defense, running game, and coaches he can produce. However, very few teams have the luxury of having all three elements. The games we won this year is either CMC getting 160+ yards from scrimmage or the defense forcing 3+ turnovers and sacks. 

[therealmjl]

29 minutes ago, GreensboroPirate said:

During his prime and playoff runs, Flacco had a nice long ball

The Ravens were gashing people down the field with big time plays

Joe Flacco is 6"6, had a very strong arm during his prime, 1st round draft pick

Kyle Allen is tiny, has baby sized hands, and doesn't have the arm strength to throw it deep

Kyle Allen's best comparison and upside is Case Keenum, another guy that undrafted from Houston, but could be a game manager in the right system

 

This

[Carolina Cajun]

not enough arm strength.  right now he reminds me of Andy Dalton.  He also could turn out to be better.  He also could turn out to be worse, who knows, guys progress different.

[Move the Panthers to Raleigh]

Kyle Allen is Kyle Allen. I hate these comparisons. Every player is different.

[Ricky Spanish]

2 minutes ago, Move the Panthers to Raleigh said:

Kyle Allen is Kyle Allen. I hate these comparisons. Every player is different.

Right? It's not fair to compare the GOAT to Joe Flacco. 

[JARROD]

Wrong wrong wrong

 

Chad Pennington.