Kyle Allen's game is improving.

[Jaxel]

57 minutes ago, Krovvy said:

In what world would Allen except this contract? The only possible way would be if he played terrible in these last games.

In the world that his other option is 457,000 for the next two years under the exclusive free agent rule.

[Krovvy]

7 minutes ago, Jaxel said:

In the world that his other option is 457,000 for the next two years under the exclusive free agent rule.

He could just not play.

[mav1234]

2 minutes ago, Jaxel said:

In the world that his other option is 457,000 for the next two years under the exclusive free agent rule.

If he is going in to next year either penciled in as starter or definitively the starter, he will likely get a decent contract.  It is possible it would be as low as 10m over 2 years. In some ways that would make sense, but I think it is more likely something like 18m over 3 years.  Maybe I am wrong, I suck at contracts haha.

The Steelers had an efra lineman that they paid a decent chunk (but still cheap overall) to in order to avoid a holdout.  But he also had one more qualifying season than Allen has... and 2 seasons of quality play is worth much more than one.

[CanadianCat]

5 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

If he is going in to next year either penciled in as starter or definitively the starter, he will likely get a decent contract.  It is possible it would be as low as 10m over 2 years. In some ways that would make sense, but I think it is more likely something like 18m over 3 years.  Maybe I am wrong, I suck at contracts haha.

No this sounds realistic. Look at what Indy did with Jacoby. They had a similar situation when Luck retired that they had a back up turned starter that made WAY too little money. So they knew they needed to give him a bump. This did 2 things, it made the player happy (obviously) but then also allowed them to add a year to the deal. 

I see Carolina doing the same thing. Basically a 3 year contract with an option after the 1st for the team to get out. With the expectation being that if Allen performs again, then he would get another significant contract extension. 

[CanadianCat]

The only time that teams allow a significantly under paid QB to play is when they actually cannot give them an extension due to the CBA rules. A good example of this is Russel Wilson. He had to play under a dirt cheap deal until I believe his 3rd or 4th year.

[Krovvy]

25 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

If Allen plays well - but not exceptional - he will get a contract that eats some of that 20 million, but I doubt anywhere near most of it.  I expect him to get paid similarly to a backup... but if he somehow improves at a rate I think is unlikely and propels this team into the playoffs, then he might take a larger chunk.  No way he gets 20 mill a year for one season.

I just don't see it, unless Cam is the starter, and we pay Kyle Allen as a backup. I don't know how you could convince Kyle that he should get paid as a backup when you've traded (or cut) your franchise quarterback for him. The Panthers would have zero leverage. The ERFA tag will only really come into play if Cam is healthy, and Kyle plays very poorly the rest of the season.

[Cpt slay a ho]

Unless Kyle ascends and lead us to a win or two in the playoffs I stand by what I believe is the best outcome.

let a healthy cam play his last year of his contract, key word healthy. 

he balls out, extend him if not will Grier or Kyle finishes the season, preferably Will

this team is set up nicely for some major moves for 2021 than 2020 

[Jaxel]

56 minutes ago, Krovvy said:

He could just not play.

In what world would Kyle not Play? 10 million and more tape and experience or 0 and no tape to get potential suitors?

[Jaxel]

22 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

Unless Kyle ascends and lead us to a win or two in the playoffs I stand by what I believe is the best outcome.

let a healthy cam play his last year of his contract, key word healthy. 

he balls out, extend him if not will Grier or Kyle finishes the season, preferably Will

this team is set up nicely for some major moves for 2021 than 2020 

Cam is not gonna play out his contract. It makes no sense for him whatsoever.

[Cpt slay a ho]

13 minutes ago, Jaxel said:

Cam is not gonna play out his contract. It makes no sense for him whatsoever.

There’s no reason to extend him either just yet.

i highly highly doubt if he’s cut or traded he’s getting more on the open market, a multi year contract is a far far stretch 

[Black&BlueBubba]

Never mind.  Deleted. 

[fortyrod]

3 hours ago, Peppers90 NC said:

Maybe. Remember last year versus Detroit he could have easily run it in but chose to throw it instead and we lost?

It's fun though to play that pretend to know what would happen game though.

I guess my point is that Cam actually has the option to run in those scenarios. No DB would think twice about vaporizing Kyle if he tried to take them on.

[Krovvy]

1 hour ago, Jaxel said:

In what world would Kyle not Play? 10 million and more tape and experience or 0 and no tape to get potential suitors?

In a world where he'll earn a contract for 5-10x that amount?

[Call Me James]

3 hours ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

Allen has no leverage. He’s not good enough that his skills are some highly sought after commodity.

Then why promote him to be the starter?