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[Toomers]

2 minutes ago, top dawg said:

We've already had this discussion. Actually you've had this discussion with several people. I don't think it's a sign of intelligence to keep discussing the same points ad nauseum. If I were interested in circuitous arguments that are opinion that you continue to argue as facts, I'd dredge through your thread/post history.

Yep. We had the discussion and it was clearly shown that it’s too early to tell on most of it. Certainly too early to call it great. Still haven’t seen you or anyone prove otherwise. It’s just something people say long enough that they actually believe it. I guess mediocrity is the goal. 

[top dawg]

5 minutes ago, Toomers said:

Yep. We had the discussion and it was clearly shown that it’s too early to tell on most of it. Certainly too early to call it great. Still haven’t seen you or anyone prove otherwise. It’s just something people say long enough that they actually believe it. I guess mediocrity is the goal. 

The point is is that Hurney's moves after being rehired have been sensible & largely fiscally responsible in the grand scheme of things--and most analysts agree--regardless of whether or not critics want to boot him to the curb based on yesteryear.

No one has a crystal ball, and not all moves work out. That's the dynamics of the business. If you're looking for perfection, you'll be waiting forever.

[Toomers]

4 minutes ago, top dawg said:

The point is is that Hurney's moves after being rehired have been sensible & largely fiscally responsible in the grand scheme of things--and most analysts agree--regardless of whether or not critics want to boot him to the curb based on yesteryear.

No one has a crystal ball, and not all moves work out. That's the dynamics of the business. If you're looking for perfection, you'll be waiting forever.

As usual. Not one thing. Analytics? Please? 
 

We can go through them one by one and see. 
 

First move. Cutting Butker for Gano. How did that go? What analytics say this was a good idea. Because results sure don’t. Then we can move to the next one. 

[top dawg]

2 minutes ago, Toomers said:

As usual. Not one thing. Analytics? Please? 
 

We can go through them one by one and see. 
 

First move. Cutting Butker for Gano. How did that go? What analytics say this was a good idea. Because results sure don’t. Then we can move to the next one. 

We've already been through this. Are you thickheaded? Damn, dude!

[Toomers]

5 minutes ago, top dawg said:

We've already been through this. Are you thickheaded? Damn, dude!

Evidently not if you are still proclaiming all his moves as good. Because there are many things that prove otherwise. 
 
Because you said so is not A viable reason. 

[top dawg]

Just now, Toomers said:

Evidently not if you are still proclaiming all his moves as good. Because there are many things that prove otherwise. 
 
Because you said so is not A viable reason. 

I didn't say they were all "good," I said they were all "reasonable," but at the end of the day, you can believe what you want. The experts do not share your opinion, at all.

[Toomers]

3 minutes ago, top dawg said:

I didn't say they were all "good," I said they were all "reasonable," but at the end of the day, you can believe what you want. The experts do not share your opinion, at all.

Who are these experts you speak of? And considering you consider every move good, it’s pretty easy to argue anything being reasonable. But results don’t lie. And you seem to not even want to discuss anything factual. 

[top dawg]

Just now, Toomers said:

Who are these experts you speak of? And considering you consider every move good, it’s pretty easy to argue anything being reasonable. But results don’t lie. And you seem to not even want to discuss anything factual. 

Go look up the articles at the time of the signings, then for shits and giggles, ask yourself how we possibly have a winning record in light of injuries.

[Toomers]

1 minute ago, top dawg said:

Go look up the articles at the time of the signings, then for shits and giggles, ask yourself how we possibly have a winning record in light of injuries.

Post them. You claimed them. Show me a credible source giving credit to Hurney.for Gano. Signing or keeping him. All it would show is they were wrong as well and maybe not the expert you thought. How does one become An expert? 

[top dawg]

Just now, Toomers said:

Post them. You claimed them. Show me a credible source giving credit to Hurney.for Gano. Signing or keeping him. All it would show is they were wrong as well and maybe not the expert you thought. How does one become An expert? 

I've wasted enough of my time with you. You don't frame anything here. You post otherwise.

[Toomers]

Just now, top dawg said:

I've wasted enough of my time with you. You don't frame anything here. You post otherwise.

It’s easier if you just say I can’t back up any of the bullshit I spew everyday. 

[top dawg]

21 minutes ago, Toomers said:

It’s easier if you just say I can’t back up any of the bullshit I spew everyday. 

I can't back up the bullshit you spew everyday.

[Toomers]

6 minutes ago, top dawg said:

I can't back up the bullshit you spew everyday.

No that’s what you Can’t and are UNABLE to dispute. Just one thing you fraud. Or go start another @Why James Bradberry sux” thread. Did you experts give you that one? 

[top dawg]

30 minutes ago, Toomers said:

No that’s what you Can’t and are UNABLE to dispute. Just one thing you fraud. Or go start another @Why James Bradberry sux” thread. Did you experts give you that one? 

LOL at you calling me a fraud. You're a grown man acting like a child. Continue on juvenile!