Alan vs Newton. Be honest. Who is better?

[TheMostInterestingMan]

42 minutes ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

There are some gentlemen here from Los Alamos who would like a word with you. Something about a Brooklyn Project. Sorry, Manhattan Project.

Sure but without Turing the war would have already been lost before those boys in Manhattan were able to come through. Fact. 

[jfra78]

1 minute ago, cookinbrak said:

That chick that CMC is dating? She aight.

Talk about a cougar she's like 70

[ecu88]

15 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Alan wins. He is single handedly responsible for the distribution of free boobies to basement trolls everywhere.

Bewbies ftw!

 

[Inimicus]

9 minutes ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

Dude, don't even go there with that mess. Dude wasn't sulking, he was napping. I know a guy who knows a guy who made a snapchat of it. Geniuses nap, proven fact.

Just look at the pictures,,,

One of them cares about science and the other is clearly absorbed by fashion.  I mean how much time did your boy spend powdering that wig??

 

[TheMostInterestingMan]

3 minutes ago, Inimicus said:

Just look at the pictures,,,

One of them cares about science and the other is clearly absorbed by fashion.  I mean how much time did your boy spend powdering that wig??

 

At the end of the day, these are the facts.

Alan was better at reading and diagnosing the opposition and was more accurate. But he was known to not work well with others. Not really a team player.

Newton has some inconsistencies but was much more versatile and probably one of the most gifted individuals in the science game. 

Newton would do his thing anywhere at any time. But Alan Turing was probably more dominant in the right system.

[ForJimmy]

Newton was knighted...

[Inimicus]

2 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Newton was knighted...

Media bias

 

It was a token knighthood

[jfra78]

1 minute ago, ForJimmy said:

Newton was knighted...

Just like Sir Purr!

[1of10Charnatives]

12 minutes ago, TheMostInterestingMan said:

Sure but without Turing the war would have already been lost before we those boys in a Manhattan were able to come through. Fact. 

ignore this for now

[TheMostInterestingMan]

1 hour ago, micnificent28 said:

Awesome thread from the most interesting man in the world.. I would expect nothing less

Yeah should have made another Kyle vs Cam thread. That debate hasn’t gotten old over the last six weeks or anything...

I’ll be honest. I’m getting more out of this pointless thread than I have been out of the last 60 pointless Cam vs Kyle threads. Cheers

[TheMostInterestingMan]

1 minute ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

uh, no.

England might have been lost, and that would have been bad, but there was zero chance of anyone successfully invading the US.  Inventing the bomb made all other considerations regarding the war irrelevant. It was an automatic win button. The conventional war in Europe was already in hand, but you can't conclusively say this was owing primarily to Turing, that would be a grave disservice to the literally millions of people who contributed to the war effort in any number of ways. You can however say that inventing the bomb was game over regardless of any other considerations.

There's essentially about a million US soldiers and airmen who didn't die because we didn't have to invade Honshu, to say nothing of the orders of magnitude greater numbers of Japanese soldiers and civilians who were spared when invasion became unnecessary. All thanks to Los Alamos.

Not dissing Turing, cause he was amazeballs, but saying he won the war or prevented his loss isn't imo a fair statement about the war, and that's completely leaving out the millions the Soviets threw in that essentially swamped the Nazi effort. Turing's machine and code breaking helped in many important ways, but it was the neverending waves of troops that Russia could afford to throw at the Nazis that was their ultimate undoing. Soviets for obvious reasons were not privy to Turing's info and therefore he didn't impact their efforts.

That’s fair. But considering I spend half my year in the UK... my perspective of his importance is perhaps slanted ;)

[TheMostInterestingMan]

4 minutes ago, Inimicus said:

Media bias

 

It was a token knighthood

Still knighted. That’s basically like winning an MVP...

[jfra78]

3 minutes ago, TheMostInterestingMan said:

Yeah should have made another Kyle vs Cam thread. That debate hasn’t gotten old over the last six weeks or anything...

I’ll be honest. I’m getting more out of this pointless thread than I have been out of the last 60 pointless Cam vs Kyle threads. Cheers

I'm enjoying the thread

[ForJimmy]

5 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

Just like Sir Purr!

Sir Purr is the Lancelot of knights. Legendary, but he was totaling hitting up the queen in the side.