Since the 1970 merger, every coach/QB combo to win the SB does so in 5 years

[Tbe]

1 minute ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

I see where you're coming from, but from a practical standpoint, you just can't do it. Your fanbase will lynch you if you trade your franchise qb the season after he wins MVP and comes within a badly officiated, poorly coached game of winning the Super Bowl.  They might not outright string you up for doing so with your head coach, but it would be a weird unprecedented thing that wouldn't make a lot of sense to anyone following football. Conventional wisdom is that getting to a Super Bowl buys a HC a minimum of several years of job security in a position where job security is mostly awful.

Oh, I completely understand that. You’d lose the casual fan and all that revenue if you trade your mvp QB away. 

However, trading Cam or Ron would have been the 100% logical thing to do given the  stats. As Tepper said, the league is setup for every team to go 8-8. You need an edge to do better than that. I personally would love it if this kind of counter-initiative and ruthless analytical thinking was our thing. I want our franchise to be the only one with the balls to do what should be done to give us the best chance for a Ring.

[Tbe]

1 minute ago, Castavar said:

Well, obviously there was NO WAY we were trading Cam at that point. But there could have been a good case of getting a new head coach after that superbowl debacle. Guess who DID do that after they lost in the superbowl? Oh, you know, just the team who BEAT US in the superbowl. Broncos could have

Good point!

[1of10Charnatives]

1 minute ago, Tbe said:

Oh, I completely understand that. You’d lose the casual fan and all that revenue if you trade your mvp QB away. 

However, trading Cam or Ron would have been the 100% logical thing to do given the  stats. As Tepper said, the league is setup for every team to go 8-8. You need an edge to do better than that. I personally would love it if this kind of counter-initiative and ruthless analytical thinking was our thing. I want our franchise to be the only one with the balls to do what should be done to give us the best chance for a Ring.

If you don't already, you should look up Gregg Easterbrook's Tuesday Morning Quarterback column. You might his enjoy his counterintuitive, anti conventional thinking take on football. It used to be free but I think atm it's sadly stuck behind a paywall with some online newspaper or something.

[Tbe]

One more hypothetical. Doug Peterson (future SB winning coach and former Panther) was available at the start the 2016 offseason. 

[1of10Charnatives]

3 minutes ago, Tbe said:

One more hypothetical. Doug Peterson (future SB winning coach and former Panther) was available at the start the 2016 offseason. 

I really really like Peterson's style as a coach. He seems to coach to win, instead of coaching not to lose. Hindsight is always 20/20 but I'd take him in a heartbeat.

[onmyown]

 

30 minutes ago, t96 said:

There are only 6 coaches who have been with their current teams longer than Ron:

Harbaugh 2008

Garrett 2010

Belichick 2000

Payton 2006

Tomlin 2007

Carroll 2010

All with newer QBs than Cam except for the ones you mentioned.

W/L; Playoff appearances; Super Bowl wins/appearances;

Harbaugh: 108-74 (.593); 7 appearances; 1 for 1 Super Bowls

Garrett: 82-62 (.569); 3 appearances; 0 Super Bowls

Belicheck: 233-80 (.744); 16 appearances; 6 for 9 Super Bowls

Payton: 125-75 (.623); 7 appearances; 1 for 1 Super Bowls

Tomlin: 129-70 (.648); 8 appearances; 1 for 2 Super Bowls

Carroll: 96-56 (.630); 7 appearances; 1 for 2 Super Bowls

Rivera: 76-59 (.563); 4 appearances; 0 for 1 Super Bowls

[ickmule]

54 minutes ago, Nesbro1 said:

Well out of all the superbowl appearing coaches on this list only one has a QB worse than Ron.

So maybe Ron isn't so bad?

Honestly I don’t think he’s as bad as some want us to believe. 

[panthers55]

So this means that Rivera and Allen have five years to win one. Plenty of time. Good news..

[j2sgam]

Fwiw, Gruden was the last coach to be traded, NFL stopped that after TB & Davis pulled that poo.... so trading RR is a moot point....