Cam Newton will be our starter next year. Here's what's going to happen...

[Untouchable]

Just now, Sam Mills Fan said:

If Cam is healthy next year, I expect he'll play fantastic. And that will lead to a gigantic payday, no?

IF we were looking at the #1 pick, I might understand this speculation. But we're 5-3 and won't sniff Tua, so I don't see any situation where we end up with a better QB in 2020 than Cam.

I do too and I don't see a way to get a better QB than a healthy Cam but why would Cam play without the security of another contract?

[TheMostInterestingMan]

Some of you are just in denial. 

I love Cam Newton. My 3rd or 4th favorite Panther of all time (Peppers, Smitty are ahead... Cam and Luke are close for 3rd)

Why can’t this fan base look at things objectively. We have a new owner with no real ties to Cam. Cam himself who hasn’t been healthy in 3 years. We save 20 mil which we will need to sign our possible MVP along with Shaq and Bradberry. And we have proven we can still win games even without Cam. Had we not had a hurt Cam starting the season we might be 6-2 or even 7-1.

Use some objective reasoning here. You think Tepper feels good about handing Cam another 20 mil right now? Why would he? You think he’s thinking “hmmm I better have the money to make CMC the highest paid skill player in the league pretty soon”

I love Cam. And it’s not fair to him that we broke him. But what’s done is done. The reality is he isn’t the same anymore. And we are likely moving on.

[My Goodness My Guinness]

4 minutes ago, Sam Mills Fan said:

Why? 

I truly don't get why people are jumping off cliffs today. His shoulder will be 100% next year. We have no indication that his foot won't be 100% either. So...what's the problem here? Cam will just be 31 next year, that's middle-age for quarterbacks. A healthy Cam Newton in 2020 will obviously be our best option at QB, much better than any QB we could have at the 16th pick or whatever.

The problem with his shoulder is a cartilage injury, it will never be 100% again. Just how it is.

31 may be middle aged for most quarterbacks, but most quarterbacks don't absorb a runningback's worth of hits per season. It's astounding that he hasn't missed more time due to injuries at this point in his career. But it's looking like his body is just starting to break down. 

[Cpt slay a ho]

1 minute ago, Untouchable said:

I do too and I don't see a way to get a better QB than a healthy Cam but why would Cam play without the security of another contract?

Cam’s In no position to holdout or anything, Kyle Allen kills that leverage 

[TheMostInterestingMan]

7 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

Smarter to keep a recovered cam than let another team reap the benefits.
 

the benefits in keeping cam outweigh the Benefits in releasing or trading him. 
 

kyle Allen still has to ball out the remainder of this year, and have some playoff success for the scale to tip heavily in cam not being here next year. 

And yet even smarter to make sure we have the money to keep our potential MVP RB as well as Shaq, Bradberry and a very promising young offensive line. That 20 million could go a long way for players like Shaq and Bradberry 

[Sam Mills Fan]

2 minutes ago, My Goodness My Guinness said:

The problem with his shoulder is a cartilage injury, it will never be 100% again. Just how it is.

31 may be middle aged for most quarterbacks, but most quarterbacks don't absorb a runningback's worth of hits per season. It's astounding that he hasn't missed more time due to injuries at this point in his career. But it's looking like his body is just starting to break down. 

That brings me back to my original point though. He'll have only played in 2 games in 21 months when the 2020 season starts. This huge layoff will help his body recover in ways it never could if he had absorbed his regular number of hits this year.

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, Sam Mills Fan said:

His shoulder is no longer the issue though right? It's his foot. Do we think that because Cam's last big injury took a lot longer to heal than they thought that this one will too?

Are we absolutely sure of that?

I'll repeat what I said elsewhere. There comes a point in every NFL player's career where they're neither as resistant to damage as they used to be or recovering from it as quickly.

It's very possible that Newton has hit that wall. The fact that it took him so little time to get injured again could be evidence in that direction.

[Cpt slay a ho]

I love the overreactions, Carson wentz and Aaron Rodgers went through the same thing, Rodgers broke his collarbone twice. Wentz put on ir twice. 

cam will be here next year unless Allen starts playing another level beyond where he’s at now.

cutting or trading cam and using the resources to resign players is just delaying the inevitable or basically making us the cowboys. 

[Cpt slay a ho]

3 minutes ago, TheMostInterestingMan said:

And yet even smarter to make sure we have the money to keep our potential MVP RB as well as Shaq, Bradberry and a very promising young offensive line. That 20 million could go a long way for players like Shaq and Bradberry 

Without cutting cam we have the cap to resign those guys.

cutting cam and going with Kyle, who I’ve still not seen enough from to anoint him the franchise guy, just to allocate money elsewhere is a recipe for mediocre 

[AceBoogie]

Y’all are delusional if you think Cam isn’t here playing next year. 

[t96]

29 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Anything's possible, but this is not a scenario I would bet money on.

If Kyle falters and we’re not sure he can be a possible franchise QB and our record is too good to get a franchise QB in the draft this year the best option may be to see what Cam has and if he comes back to form we roll with him and if not we tank for one of the top QBs in 2021, of which there could be several elite guys...

[Untouchable]

10 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

Cam’s In no position to holdout or anything, Kyle Allen kills that leverage 

You are way off base if you think Cam has no leverage or that Allen would be the reason why, but I also think you know that by what you said below.

8 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

cutting cam and going with Kyle, who I’ve still not seen enough from to anoint him the franchise guy, just to allocate money elsewhere is a recipe for mediocre 

 

[Cpt slay a ho]

8 minutes ago, Untouchable said:

You are way off base if you think Cam has no leverage or that Allen would be the reason why, but I also think you know that by what you said below.

 

That’s a big gamble, plus cam doesn’t strike me as the type of guy who’d make grumblings about his contract, especially given the recent injury history.

i think he bets on himself and it ultimately pays off drastically or it doesn’t 

[Tbe]

The stats show cam is Typically terrible when he doesn’t run 8+ times a game. He needs the running threat to open up big passing windows because he can’t make accurate throws consistently. There is no way the coaching staff will continue to let him run that much.

Because of that, He’s done here.