Likely won't see Cam in a Panthers uni again

[SmartyHurney]

Just now, Zeek said:

I'm bored so I'll say this much. We don't need a QB to be 2015 Cam good in order to win. Look at Kansas City surviving with Moore. Kyle Allen only has to be serviceable if we build up the OL around him and get a true OBJ type WR1.

Problem with this is you don't need a quarterback short-term. Sure. Short-term you can get by and scheme around it.

Though long-term bad quarterbacks, even mediocre, get exposed, and become worse overtime as their flaws are schemed against.

[GoPanthers123]

Cam is the best player in Panthers history.  This is a sad day.  I’m confident in Allen though going forward.  

[MVPccaffrey]

2 minutes ago, GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER said:

BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT

Oh so we're not in the NFL cellar after all, as @SmartyHurney so opined?  Hmmmm...

[micnificent28]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'm talking about what numerous people (not just Igo) with access to the team believe is going to happen.

You're talking about what you want to happen.

What you want is irrelevant.

When have I want anything Scot? Lol I haven't commented on this whole situation because we all knew that the IR was likely due to the foot not healing. What your doing is say yeah he is probably done based on those close to the situation when those people haven't said anything but what could happen as well. I have not seen igo or person anyone say yeah cam is furious and this situation is beyond reconciliation. I dont even know how Cam feels about this... we might see him at the game Sunday would your opinion look dumb then? Yes..

What I'm saying is between now and a week ago nothing as far as we know has changed. Stop spreading half truths.

[Zeek]

5 minutes ago, SmartyHurney said:

Problem with this is you don't need a quarterback short-term. Sure. Short-term you can get by and scheme around it.

Though long-term bad quarterbacks, even mediocre, get exposed, and become worse overtime as their flaws are schemed against.

Agreed, but there have been plenty of average quarterbacks who have won super bowls.

[SmartyHurney]

Just now, Zeek said:

Agreed, but there have been plenty of average quarterbacks who have won super bowls.

Rarely.

[SmartyHurney]

Just now, Zeek said:

Agreed, but there have been plenty of average quarterbacks who have won super bowls.

I mean, you would agree that having an average quarterback makes it harder to win a super bowl than a great one, right?

If not, I don't know what to say. The Panthers are 0-2 so far in Super Bowls. It's difficult to even get to one.

[arbnranger]

1 hour ago, Nesbro1 said:

Then quite simply you are not a Panthers fan.

Nah man 

I’m OG Panthers fan and if Can isnt here then I’ll still be pulling for him any and every time it’s not in conflict with the Panthers. Let’s not go overboard. 

[NorthTryon]

35 minutes ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Cool, lets bump this thread in the Spring, shall we?

We shall Captain Riddles.  In the meantime, stay classy San Diego.

[Butterflyj30]

Oh noooooooooooo

[Zeek]

1 minute ago, SmartyHurney said:

Rarely.

Maybe we have different definitions of average but I think the following are average to a little above-average:

Nick Foles

Joe Flacco

Eli Manning

Brad Johnson

Trent Dilfer

John Elway (don't @ me)

Mark Rypien

Jeff Hostelter

Honestly Bradshaw lived off being surrounded by a great team.

[LinvilleGorge]

2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Seriously though, Joe Person has been saying this was possible for a long time.

Seriously though, Joe Person has a room temperature IQ.

[joemac]

27 minutes ago, Zeek said:

I'd be more concerned with the combination of what could happen. We have the potential for a lot of players being gone after this year. The OL still isn't great, Olsen can't have many years left, DJ and Samuel are WR2 and WR3 candidates, our safeties are old or don't wrap up, Bradberry is due for a new contract, and Ron Rivera is still our coach.

The potential for being a Jets level team is there. I agree though it's not likely especially with the Bucs about to rebuild, Atlanta embracing the rebuild, and the Saints soon to be without Brees (though still the likely leader of the division for a few years at least). However, staying a middling team who can't string together winning seasons is within realistic expectations. So we miss the playoffs but draft too high to get guys like Chase Young.

Nobody wants to be a middling, 6-10 or 8-8 team every season.  We either gotta keep Cam and think next year is a legit Super Bowl shot, or we blow the whole damn thing up and start over.  Just barely getting by, scraping for wins and hanging out in the middle of the standings year after year is how the Hornet got to where they are today.  Not bad enough to draft anybody really good, and not good enough to ever do any damage or attract any key free agents.

[Krovvy]

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Seriously though, Joe Person has a room temperature IQ.