Kyle Allen can’t become a franchise QB? Think again..

[jfra78]

6 minutes ago, Nesbro1 said:

You are mistaking back shoulder fades to underthrown balls. Jake hit tons and tons of deep balls in stride.

But not just deep balls. X clown was perfect.

Nope he threw underthrown balls all the time that Smith had to come back too.  You have revisionist history

[CRA]

11 minutes ago, Nesbro1 said:

You are mistaking back shoulder fades to underthrown balls. Jake hit tons and tons of deep balls in stride.

But not just deep balls. X clown was perfect.

Jake made tons of prayers that 89 made happen though.  Those outweighed some of the more memorable ones where he dropped it in perfectly. 

[DubE_4MR]

I like Kyle. But it's premature to say that he can or can't be a franchise QB after 6 starts. His statistics are better than or at least on par with the 4 first round QBs picked ahead of Lamar (Mayfield, Darnold, Rosen, Josh Allen). But he still needs got a lot of growth and development as do all of the 2nd year QBs. How about just let him develop and grow as a pro instead of trying to have the next great hot take? 

If only every young developing QB had a Lamar Jackson type cheat code to press to get them out of trouble.

[Black&BlueBubba]

50 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Building teams around young cheap quarterbacks is a common trend now.

And that is what intrigues me about Allen.  It’s not really Allen per se.  but the ability to spend that huge amount of money elsewhere and build a damn good team. 
 

Still to early to commit to that. 

[CRA]

2 minutes ago, Nesbro1 said:

You understand good QBs let receivers make plays. There are videos of Steve coming over to Jake and saying don't worry about placement you just put it up and I'll go get it.

They had faith in each other.

yes, and you understand when a WR fails to make a play on those prayers it just regarded as a crappy and boneheaded throw by the QB? 

Allen doesn't have the type WR he can just throw bad passes to like Jake routinely could. 

[*FreeFua*]

[jfra78]

3 minutes ago, CRA said:

yes, and you understand when a WR fails to make a play on those prayers it just regarded as a crappy and boneheaded throw by the QB? 

Allen doesn't have the type WR he can just throw bad passes to like Jake routinely could. 

Exactly

[Waldo]

51 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

Anderson's first 4 games he played in were in 2006 he went 66/117 (56%), 5 TDs, 8 INTs, with a record of 1-3... 

You may be right ultimately that Allen is nothing special and perhaps his career will compare to Anderon's, as ofc we are a much better team than Cleveland was that year, but Allen is outperforming Anderson and many other JAGs/backups at this point in their career by a significant margin.  It does not mean he is "a franchise QB", and I hate comparisons to the aforementioned superstars in the OP, but for his level of experience he is playing really well IMO.

edit: and even in his pro bowl year in 2007, he started off very hot and cold and threw quite a few picks

Yeah missed that first year on my phone and it says 0-3 as a starter and then 2 more games played. Still pulled out 10 wins the next year with the freaking Browns, which was the anomaly. I don't know what Allen will be but my problem is with the people stating he is a franchise QB which he isn't yet flat out. Sunday looked like his best game yet, and it was still great for a backup and good enough to not lose as a starter, that is just not franchise QB play. We are lucky to have Allen but that has a lot to do with value. He is still cheap and basically we got him for free. With a new contract that value changes drastically. As far as the Anderson comparison, I agree, two different QBs but sadly the correlation between wins and franchise QB is a common misinterpretation which was the only reason for the comparison. Allen looks a lot better than Anderson who was just not a very good QB. 

[Waldo]

1 hour ago, raz said:

super hot take bro.  amazed you're not in a front office somewhere

Quality input. I'm amazed the person responsible for you didn't flush and left their phone. 

[XOBlackxJokerOX]

11 hours ago, bchamp10 said:

Weird bc I cant recall the last time Cam did so..

Then your memory is very short. Did you start watching after he hurt his shoulder?

[PanthersNC1984]

15 hours ago, GoPanthers123 said:

So what you are saying is rookie season stats do not define long term potential?  I thought so as well.   Someone can improve their shortcomings, or lose interest in football and become full time party animal.  Allen cleaned up his fumbling and I am leaning toward him being in the former category.

Speaking of his fumbling, that one play where he got sacked blind sided and he still held a tight grip on the ball was amazing and I still don’t know how he held on to it, shows he has been working on his ball security a lot 

[Mr. Scot]

if you want to take a look at a guy with an ongoing fumbling problem, you might want to check out Daniel Jones.

Just saw word that the other cat team with quarterback questions has named Nick Foles their starter.

I think that's a mistake.

[raz]

wrong thread

[hepcat]

16 hours ago, TheRumGone said:

He can’t make all the nfl throws

Neither could Cam anymore