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What is Kyle Allen’s ceiling?

thunderraiden

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3 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

And he was just as close to have another 2 TDs is what I mean - the Titan defender on the one Samuel ball being slightly out of position is one, and Moore having a cleaner catch on his long ball is another.  I don't fault either receiver in either case, but I find the "what COULD have happened if player X had made the play" tiresome when they didn't.  Where are the pitchforks for Wright dropping a very catchable ball on 3rd down in the 4th quarter?  That seems to be a bigger sticking point than if our QB may have thrown two more interceptions or not had things gone differently.

Yeah, he missed most of his long throws today. It is what it is.

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Just now, Krovvy said:

Yeah, he missed most of his long throws today. It is what it is.

He did.  He is particularly weak in that area.  Although he actually completed 4/10 of passes nfl.com classifies as "deep."  That is actually more than he had all season to date, lol.

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Just now, Krovvy said:

Damn.

It is one of his bigger weaknesses.  But at the same time, if he gets his deep ball completion % up to 40 regularly, it will change how teams play us and IMO will make us much more dangerous, as it'll just clear out that much more room for CMC.

I will say he seemed to move around the pocket better today.  He definitely was progressing past his first read.  He also had a couple of smart plays in terms of scrambling.  

I still wish we were looking at Cam being healthy and ready to go for next week and beyond, but at least I am happy to see our young QB is getting better most weeks and can at least move the offense.

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1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Matt Moore was a big play guy. He'd do nothing for six or seven plays and then suddenly throw a long bomb.

Allen is more like one of those methodical guys who takes what the defense gives him.

For the record, it's infuriating to play against that kind of guy.

Yeah, he seems good on short and intermediate stuff...  idk, I always remember Matt throwing some ducks up occasionally and never got the impression he had a huge arm, so that was the angle I was taking...  that, and I think their career trajectory could be fairly similar.  

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1 minute ago, Proudiddy said:

Yeah, he seems good on short and intermediate stuff...  idk, I always remember Matt throwing some ducks up occasionally and never got the impression he had a huge arm, so that was the angle I was taking...  that, and I think their career trajectory could be fairly similar.  

Career trajectory could be, although Allen has started off significantly better than Moore did, but the team may also be better than what Moore started with.

As to similarity in playstyle... Moore didn't have a huge canon or anything, and it may be the offense we ran back then, but he always seemed to try to get huge chunks.  Perhaps I am misremembering though.  It is strikingly similar though, how our coaching staff played an injured QB too long, cost us some wins, and many of us were left wondering "what if" when Moore finally took over.  Then he stunk the next year, Fox was on his way out, and the team fell off the rails completely... Could be VERY similar to Kyle Allen... 

But Moore looked pretty good for KC the last couple weeks all things considered.  Glad to see he is having some success in that QB-friendly system.

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