Seahawks claim Gordon off waivers

[mc52beast]

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27983911/seahawks-claim-receiver-josh-gordon-waivers

Which I’m pretty sure means the Panthers passed on him. Everyone ok with this?

[t96]

Yeah he’s not the player he was 5 years ago and there are definite concerns about work ethic, love for the game and possibility of a relapse.

[Happy Panther]

He is cheap with a potentially "high" ceiling. Almost worth it just to get him on the roster so one of the playoff teams ahead of us doesn't get him.

Having said that this doesn't seem like a big deal.

[TheMostInterestingMan]

People act like Gordon is still a pro bowl talent. The reality is that dude has barely been relevant in years. He’s averaged like less than 50 yards a game and less than 3 TDs a season for like the last four years. And that’s not counting all the time he’s missed.

Dude really isn’t anything to worry over anymore. He had the ability to be an all time great but that ship sailed long ago. He’s just an average WR at this point. Why do people still act like he’s some got commodity? 

[top dawg]

2 hours ago, TheMostInterestingMan said:

People act like Gordon is still a pro bowl talent. The reality is that dude has barely been relevant in years. He’s averaged like less than 50 yards a game and less than 3 TDs a season for like the last four years. And that’s not counting all the time he’s missed.

Dude really isn’t anything to worry over anymore. He had the ability to be an all time great but that ship sailed long ago. He’s just an average WR at this point. Why do people still act like he’s some got commodity? 

Because he has still shown some athleticism, even this year, and he's only 28. It would've been a cheap low-risk rental at worst.

The question with him is obvious. But, if some of you want to believe he's washed, then go ahead. Last season, he put up 700+ yards in only 11 games. 

[ForJimmy]

Stay away from players the Pats cut. Especially WR which they are thin at, so thin they actually traded a 2nd round pick for another one...

[onmyown]

It’s just sad to see that kind of natural talent go to waste, he had the ability to be one of the best to play the game.

[Snake]

That's probably going to be the difference in our game against them. JS

[TheMostInterestingMan]

2 hours ago, top dawg said:

Because he has still shown some athleticism, even this year, and he's only 28. It would've been a cheap low-risk rental at worst.

The question with him is obvious. But, if some of you want to believe he's washed, then go ahead. Last season, he put up 700+ yards in only 11 games. 

LOL and this is exactly the delusion I’m talking about. Gordon hasn’t eclipsed 100 yards once this season. He had one single 100 yard game last season. 

 

In 3 years he’s had two games with 100 yards. That is... actually bang average. 

He’s been irrelevant since 2013 and people still act as though he’s Randy Moss.

 

[Mr. Scot]

Just a point of detail, the Seahawks were 28th in the waiver order. The only teams lower (other than the team that released him) were Green Bay, New Orleans and San Francisco. We were several spots higher.

So yes, we passed on him.

[MechaZain]

I think its dumb to pass because there’s nothing to lose. Bring him in for cheap, cut him if he sucks. Simple. Patriots did exactly that and they’re no worse off for trying

 

[Mr. Scot]

14 minutes ago, MechaZain said:

I think its dumb to pass because there’s nothing to lose. Bring him in for cheap, cut him if he sucks. Simple. Patriots did exactly that and they’re no worse off for trying

They're not necessarily better off either. Or at least they didn't think so (they wouldn't have cut him if they did).

Mentioned this yesterday, but look up the stories of Stanley Wilson and Barret Robbins.

These were two guys who were a tad flaky. Enough so that each of them one day just didn't show up for a game. Their respective teams (the Bengals and the Raiders) lost those games. And unfortunately, those games happened to be Super Bowls. 

You can also look back at a case like Hollywood Henderson. Enormous talent, but shaky character. He wound up playing in a Super Bowl that he doesn't even remember because he was too heavily coked up. And yeah his team lost that game too.

That's three instances where teams putting themselves in the position of having to depend on undependable players wound up costing themselves as Super Bowl. and in two of those three cases, right up till that moment the players were behaving themselves.

That's the kind of risk you take. You can be willing to accept it, but if you're not there are examples that Illustrate why.

This week, twenty-seven teams who are well aware of Gordon's immense talent thought he was too big a risk (twenty-eight if you count the Patriots). It wasn't just us.

That's the kind of thing that would give me pause.

[micnificent28]

9 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

They're not necessarily better off either. Or at least they didn't think so (they wouldn't have cut him if they did).

Mentioned this yesterday, but look up the stories of Stanley Wilson and Barret Robbins.

These were two guys who were a tad flaky. Enough so that each of them one day just didn't show up for a game. Their respective teams (the Bengals and the Raiders) lost those games. And unfortunately, those games happened to be Super Bowls. 

You can also look back at a case like Hollywood Henderson. Enormous talent, but shaky character. He wound up playing in a Super Bowl that he doesn't even remember because he was too heavily coked up. And yeah his team lost that game too.

That's three instances where teams putting themselves in the position of having to depend on undependable players wound up costing themselves as Super Bowl. and in two of those three cases, right up till that moment the players were behaving themselves.

That's the kind of risk you take. You can be willing to accept it, but if you're not there are examples that Illustrate why.

This week, twenty-seven teams who are well aware of Gordon's immense talent thought he was too big a risk (twenty-eight if you count the Patriots). It wasn't just us.

That's the kind of thing that would give me pause.

Yeah the Patriots are know as the model franchise and routinely take low risk high reward fliers on guys like Gordon. We have all seen it with Moss,Gordon,Brown to name a few. You say it's a risk he could get popped for coke again and I say for 750k or so who cares? Your getting a bargain on talent at that price and If he catches 70 passes for 800 yards your a big winner. 

If he does get in trouble for off the field issues you cut him and dont look any worse off just like the Pat's did with brown. Seem our fan base is to worried out our squeaky clean image that our players are good guys than trying to win. There is a reason the Pat's stay at the top and it's the model they follow. They want to win at any cost.

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

Yeah the Patriots are know as the model franchise and routinely take low risk high reward fliers on guys like Gordon. We have all seen it with Moss,Gordon,Brown to name a few. You say it's a risk he could get popped for coke again and I say for 750k or so who cares? Your getting a bargain on talent at that price and If he catches 70 passes for 800 yards your a big winner. 

If he does get in trouble for off the field issues you cut him and dont look any worse off just like the Pat's did with brown. Seem our fan base is to worried out our squeaky clean image that our players are good guys than trying to win. There is a reason the Pat's stay at the top and it's the model they follow. They want to win at any cost.

Here's the thing, though...

The Patriots have proven very willing to take a risk.

For that reason, when they do dump somebody, that's a red flag.