Bring in Colin Kaepernick, like weeks ago.

[KillaCamNewton]

i love the whole hE hAd 16TDs ANd oNLy 4 PicKS argument though. 

like we just saw with Kyle Allen before the San Francisco game, if you only look for the 1st read then check down (or in Kap's case run) and dont take any shots downfield its really easy to keep the interceptions to a minimum

[djp14]

3 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Can anybody remember a time when a team brought in a new starting quarterback off the street in midseason and was successful?

Hell, I'm not even sure I remember a time when somebody did that unsuccessfully.

[Iron Saint]

Damn, y'all went from "Cam can take his time healing, we got Allen" all the way to "we won't win another game if we don't sign Kaepernick NAOOOOO" in a week.

3 hours ago, PootieNunu said:

His completion was 59% and he played in 12 games and started 11 of those. but only passed for 2,241 yards. Even if you take out the game he didn't start that is barely 200 yards per game passing, he was by no means lighting the league on fire. He was benched in that same season for Gabbert. 

2 hours ago, Zaximus said:

That's the company line, but people that can read between the lines and remember what was happening then know that is probably not accurate.    

Read between the lines of what? The first time he was benched for Gabbert was in 2015 (if you bothered to check the post date on that article you didn't read), not 2016.

He was benched after going 2-6, completing only 59.3% of his passes for 1615 yards, 6 TD and 5 INT, and a QB rating of 78.8.

2 of those 6 losses came against 10-6 playoff teams that the 49ers defense held to 17 and 20 points IN SAN FRANCISCO and Kaepernick still couldn't get it done with the 49ers offense only scoring 6 points combined in those two games.

Kaepernick himself had a particularly gaudy stat line going 26-49 (53.1 completion %) for 284 yards, 0 TD, 1 INT, and a 61.95 QB rating in those two games.

Unless you're implying the 49ers have a time machine or a crystal ball which let them foresee the events of 2016, Kaepernick absolutely was benched in November 2015 for poor performance. There is zero debate. That's a fact.

1 hour ago, micnificent28 said:

Well this is a completely unprecedented situation. Have we ever seen a player of Kaps ability sitting unrostered before? A player who isn't playing for ability reasons is unheard of so it sets the stage for such talk.

He has a losing record as a starter, < 60% career completion %, and is barely averaging 1 passing TD per game for his career. It's not unprecedented in the least.

Kaepernick's career numbers: 28-30 record, 59.8 completion %, 1.04 passing TD/game

Here are some QB's that his own Pro Football Reference page is statistically comparing to him career wise...

• Derek Carr: 35-50 record, 63.5 completion %, 1.57 TD/game
  • significantly worse record, significantly better completion % and TD numbers than Kaepernick
• Marcus Mariota: 29-32 record, 62.9 completion %, 1.23 TD/game
  • on par record, slightly better completion % and TD numbers than Kaepernick
• Jameis Winston: 23-38 record, 61.1 completion %, 1.62 TD/game
  • significantly worse record, on par completion %, significantly better TD numbers than Kaepernick
• Blake Bortles: 24-49 record, 59.3 completion %, 1.36 TD/game
  • significantly worse record, on par completion %, slightly better TD numbers than Kaepernick
• Kirk Cousins: 40-39-2 record, 66.9 completion %, 1.65 TD/game
  • slightly better record, significantly better completion % and TD numbers than Kaepernick

Again for clarification, I didn't arbitrarily select these QB's; these QB's are listed on Kaepernick's own Pro Football Reference page under the "Similar Players" heading.

Now what similarities can we draw between Kaepernick and all 5 of those QB's?

For starters, all 5 of them have been benched within the last two seasons for performance reasons, all 5 also have thrown for more TD's per game than Kaepernick has, and 4 of which have a higher career completion % than Kaepernick. 2 of those more than likely won't receive extensions after this year and will be on new teams in 2020 battling for a clipboard holding role (despite being drafted #1 and #2 overall), one of those is already currently holding a clipboard on his second team after not receiving an extension (despite being drafted #3 overall), and another is close to being thrown out with the bath water if that team doesn't produce. The only one that has a winning record was widely being discussed as being a MASSIVE free agency bust until he started slinging TD's like a madman.

Here are a few other older QB's also listed in the same group above for nostalgia...

• Jay Fiedler: 37-23 record, 58.7 completion %, 0.91 TD/game
  • significantly better record, on par completion %, slightly worse TD numbers than Kaepernick
  • very similar career as Kaepernick, started out with two good years on some decent Dolphins teams in 2000 and 2001 (albeit with more INT) then couldn't produce at that level again
    • Fiedler (2000-01): 21-10 record, 59.1 completion %, 5692 yards, 34 TD, 33 INT
    • Kaepernick (2012-13): 17-6 record, 59.8 completion %, 5011 yards, 31 TD, 11 INT
• Scott Mitchell: 32-39 record, 55.5 completion %, 0.96 TD/game
  • slightly worse record, significantly worse completion %, slightly worse TD numbers than Kaepernick
  • similar career as Kaepernick, had one REALLY good 1995 season (10-6 record, 4300 yards, 32 TD-12 INT) then never produced at that level again
• Elvis Grbac: 40-30 record, 59.1 completion %, 0.94 TD/game
  • significantly better record, on par completion%, slightly worse TD numbers

[uncfan888]

@Iron Saint most of us knew that Kyle Allen was only a temporary fix. He did a good job keeping us above water like teddy did for you guys, but Kyle isn't a full time starter. Our playoff hopes relied on cam coming back

[Iron Saint]

4 minutes ago, uncfan888 said:

@Iron Saint most of us knew that Kyle Allen was only a temporary fix. He did a good job keeping us above water like teddy did for you guys, but Kyle isn't a full time starter. Our playoff hopes relied on cam coming back

He certainly did keep y'all above water; I was surprised at how well Allen performed, much how I'm sure y'all were surprised about Bridgewater. Playoffs or not, I think he's definitely worth leaving in there and let him get more experience. He'll take a few more lumps, be he's already produced far more than most backup QB's that are thrust into the lineup like that. Definitely got to fix that offensive line though.

[rodeo]

he's better than allen and the two of them would get along because allen was supportive of colin's kneeling protest.

[Smithers]

6 hours ago, Shocker said:

He stinks at football...why cant anyone see this?  

Amen.  He got beat out by Blaine Gabbert for goodness sakes.  

[ickmule]

Please stop.  

[GoPanthers123]

If you want to tank for a high draft pick that would be the perfect move. 

[The Huddler]

7 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We've gone 4-1 with our backup QB. What this roster desperately needs are some run stoppers because every decent running team has had their way on the ground against us 

too bad we let Star go

[Davidson Deac II]

6 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

We might not be in an optimal position to draft a quarterback first round unless we trade up.

This could be one of those years where we're not good enough to make it into the playoffs but good enough to spike our draft position out of the top ten to fifteen.

So instead of getting Mitch Trubisky, we might get Patrick Mahomes or Deshaun Watson?  

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, Davidson Deac II said:

So instead of getting Mitch Trubisky, we might get Patrick Mahomes or Deshaun Watson?  

Fair point 

[jb2288]

7 hours ago, top dawg said:

I think we've seen enough of Allen to know that he's truly a backup, no matter how much we want him to be more. I guess I'll keep hoping like the rest of you "hopeless romantics." 

Also, remember Grier...

I don’t disagree with you but I do think he has the ability to improve with more game time even if his ceiling is career back up

[ECUPantherFan]