Did Cam’s dabs and grandiose celebrations lead to his downfall injury wise?

[TheRed]

The headhunting stuff definitely began with Wade Phillips. Other teams took note that the refs were allowing it and capitalized as well.

As far as league perception all you need to know is how Cam has been perceived by his peers, fellow players. It's no coincidence he has been consistently voted amongst the best players in the league by other competitors. Guys like Cam that embody a sheer joy for the game make everyone else better. Others doing his superman pose shows just the kind of impression he has made on the league itself. If you don't think he's eventually getting into the hall, you'll never be convinced.

[Pantherxtreme]

Nah I just think football's a violent sport and injuries happen. 

[SmokinwithWilly]

2015 was an amazing season for the Panthers. As a fan that no longer lives in the Carolinas I can tell you that season I have never seen a player hated by so many people. Sports radio and football fans all talked about how cocky and arrogant he was, and how he taunted opposing players and fans repeatedly with his celebrations, and how they wished someone would wipe that smile off his face. He may have been loved in Panther nation but he was hated everywhere else. 

When I played sports when I was younger, and even now playing games as an adult, if I'm playing against someone that I find cocky and arrogant, I make it a point to not just beat them, but crush them. I'll lose the game just to do it, but I want to wipe that grin off their face.

I have no doubt the guys in the NFL are the same way. I've always felt the NFL wanted to teach him a lesson in SB50 and follow it up in the 2016 opener. They wanted to knock him down a few pegs. I'm not so sure that guys aren't going for that knockout punch a lot of the time.

Perfect example, I believe it was a Falcons(could be wrong) game when he was running it in for a TD and slowed down just before crossing the goal line. He didnt just get tackled, he got drilled so hard I thought there was no way he didnt get concussed. A little bit of showboating, little cockiness, little arrogance, whatever you want to call it and he paid the price. Perfectly legal hit that wouldnt have happened if he had just finished the play. He could have celebrated after.

So yeah, I think it's perfectly reasonable to assume that Cam may get driven into the ground harder, or that refs wont give him the calls, or the league office will allow headhunting on him. I understand that Cam will likely always have the same attitude as he has had on the field, but I also believe its extremely naive to think it doesnt rub people the wrong way and they want to knock that boyish grin right off his face.

[rayzor]

2 minutes ago, TheRed said:

The headhunting stuff definitely began with Wade Phillips. Other teams took note that the refs were allowing it and capitalized as well.

As far as league perception all you need to know is how Cam has been perceived by his peers, fellow players. It's no coincidence he has been consistently voted amongst the best players in the league by other competitors. Guys like Cam that embody a sheer joy for the game make everyone else better. Others doing his superman pose shows just the kind of impression he has made on the league itself. If you don't think he's eventually getting into the hall, you'll never be convinced.

Players were getting away with late hits and cheap shots on Cam before, but Wade and the broncos took it to another level. It was like the seahawk D a few years back where they started doing a lot more PI stuff than normal because they noticed not everything was getting called and started playing the odds.

Players noticed league wide that refs weren't calling it and started targeting without repercussions, but the no calls had been going on for a long time. 

[Move the Panthers to Raleigh]

This has crossed my mind several times as Cam seems to be more hated than any other QB I've ever seen. I really think it all comes down to him doing flamboyant celebrations out there.

[Mr. Scot]

Here's a simple statement of reality...

Competitive people don't like it when you beat them.

They like it even less when you're happy about it.

Some of them are able to separate those feelings from their personal feelings about you.

Others are not. Therefore, they move a step further from not liking that you beat them to not liking you.

If they make that leap, then they may or may not do something about it, depending on what kind of person they are.

How you handle victory can make this less likely or more likely.

None of this is really that complicated.

[34yearoldsafety]

There have been some bad topics on the huddle, but this may be by far the WORST.

[Darvinsun]

3 hours ago, Moo Daeng said:

I don't recall any discussion of this during or after the superbowl.  My memory isn't perfect but seems this is getting muddled together. The head shot conversation began first game of 16

Sorry but it did not. Cam has not been getting calls before 2016. He brought it to refs attention and from that point on it continued. SB was where various no calls were seen and it continued..People started paying more attention when Cam called the ref out. It went when from 1 maybe to more than one in a game. Where guys like Brees, Brady, Ryan all were getting calls if touched lightly by a defender.

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, Darvinsun said:

Where guys like Beers, Brady, Ryan 

I love autocorrect.

[Darvinsun]

3 hours ago, raz said:

he obviously brought the headhunting on himself to some degree through his behavior on the field.   rivera should have put a stop to the whole teams antics in '15.  he played in the league.  he knew what would happen.  he didn't.  but the D is always gonna try and take the best players out hard if that will sabotage the whole O.   sportsmanship used to be a focus, to not engender these types of feelings from the opposition.    

Cam did nothing but celebrate. Big blk QB that can back up what he says. It's not the intensity that Cam brought was bad. It made the game interesting. What was bad was that players were not punished for the illegal hits. The NFL itself did not like CAM and this is where I turn my TV off. Defenders and refs were doing what they were allowed to do. Other QBs you could not even touch without getting penalized and fined. Cam was open season and they took advantage of it.

[Ted Ginn Jr.'s Hands]

Philip Rivers has talked more trash than Cam ever will and he's fine.

[TheRed]

Anyone that actually believes a football player celebrating with their teammates justifies literal headhunting to the extreme point of trying to give someone a potential brain injury is beyond reasoning with on any intellectual level. That's some bullshit lower than even Saints fans, and that's pretty fugging low.

[YoungPanthers89]

Kyle is pretty good at falling though you guys gotta admit that

[Mvp2014]

this is why i havent spent a cent on the nfl in 3 years.  Kind of miss sunday ticket but naa