Did Cam’s dabs and grandiose celebrations lead to his downfall injury wise?

[Moo Daeng]

4 minutes ago, raz said:

he obviously brought the headhunting on himself to some degree through his behavior on the field.   rivera should have put a stop to the whole teams antics in '15.  he played in the league.  he knew what would happen.  he didn't.  but the D is always gonna try and take the best players out hard if that will sabotage the whole O.   sportsmanship used to be a focus, to not engender these types of feelings from the opposition.    

No, not obviously at all.

Used to be? Used to be the players celebrated just the same if not more. It only subsided when rules were enacted that meant penalties.

[uncfan888]

26 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

I’ve officially seen it all now

Just wait. It'll get worse

[Mr. Scot]

5 minutes ago, run1stdownrun2nddown said:

Does a QB showboating cause the defenders on the other team to want to "give him a little extra" when they get a chance to lay a hit? Of course it does, not sure why everyone in this thread is playing dumb about what OP said.

I wouldn't deny that, but I don't see it as a reason for his injuries.

If there's anything that might have contributed more to his being injured, it's the all-out style of football that he plays.

[raz]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

It's the old thing about your kids and other people's kids. Everybody here hated Roman Harper two, until we signed him of course.

I would say this. Jim McMahon was way more dislikable than Newton will ever be.

Newton might be a bit of a showoff, but McMahon was an a--hole.

i liked that whole team.  my pops was from chicago so that was our jams

[raz]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

I wouldn't deny that, but I don't see it as a reason for his injuries.

If there's anything that might have contributed more to his being injured, it's the all-out style of football that he plays.

yeah i agree with that.  it caused a lot of headhunting but the injuries didn't come from that.   should have been more specific with my posts.  same reason i don't get why folks want him running again when he plays

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, raz said:

i liked that whole team.  my pops was from chicago so that was our jams

Team had personalities for sure.

Mike Singletary's eyes gave people nightmares.

[raz]

3 minutes ago, uncfan888 said:

Just wait. It'll get worse

i don't think so.  he'll be back soon enough and maybe we can all see where that shoulder is really at.

[MasterAwesome]

20 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

I don't recall any discussion of this during or after the superbowl.  My memory isn't perfect but seems this is getting muddled together. The head shot conversation began first game of 16

Nah, you're right...it was really just the one 2016 Broncos game, albeit that was a pretty egregious case of it.  Misinformation is pretty widespread on the Huddle.  These are the same people who go into thread after thread talking about how terrible Rivera is after the Bye, when he hasn't lost since 2014.

[onmyown]

4 minutes ago, raz said:

yeah i agree with that.  it caused a lot of headhunting but the injuries didn't come from that.   should have been more specific with my posts.  same reason i don't get why folks want him running again when he plays

Because that’s Cam. That’s his style. If you want to see no running Cam check several year ago (forgot the year) when they put a leash on him the first 4 games or so and he was bad and we lost. Then out of desperation they finally took it off and he was a completely different QB and we won.

I was always that fan who wanted him to not run as much as well. Especially short yardage red zone etc. but Cam is just not an effective QB without having the freedom of his legs. It’s not his style.

Now I’m just a fan wishing he would slide. But then a part of me thinks if he can mow down a defender and gain 10 more yards...not something you’d think about with say Rodgers.

[Mr. Scot]

26 minutes ago, onmyown said:

This entire board would hate Cam if he was on another team whooping our ass and showboating. But he’s not so we root for him. He’s a competitor and players get hurt in football. Let Cam be Cam, you have to let him compete his way in my opinion. If it lights a fire under other players to stop him so be it. 

I think there are probably several players on our team who we'd all hate if they had played somewhere else. And yeah, Cam is one of them.

Hell, Greg Olsen comes off as a prickish know it all sometimes.

[Moo Daeng]

10 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

Nah, you're right...it was really just the one 2016 Broncos game, albeit that was a pretty egregious case of it.  Misinformation is pretty widespread on the Huddle.  These are the same people who go into thread after thread talking about how terrible Rivera is after the Bye, when he hasn't lost since 2014.

It's a matter of repeating things so many times the assumption is it's true. I'm sure we all do it. However,  fact checking is pretty important these days. 

[rico6]

This fuging place, man.

[4Corners]

2 hours ago, PanthersNC1984 said:

One thing that has been apparent over the years is it really seems like Cam brings out something in opposing defenders that other QBs don’t. It always seems like when opposing defenders hit or sack Cam, they do it with an agenda and with intensity other QBs just don’t experience. 
 

I think back to alll the times other defenders have mocked his Superman pose and dabs when they sack him. Then the Titans game a few years back when he got in the defender’s face after a TD and rubbed it in.

Or the Bucs game where he slowed down and held out the ball before he reached the end zone in a taunting manner. It’s almost like players see that and it’s frowned upon so they make sure to go extra hard after Cam and “humble” him.

Look at the sacks Kyle Allen has taken so far, just very light, garden variety sacks, definitley not with the same force and aggressiveness as with Cam.

What the hell is wrong with you?

[Navy_football]

32 minutes ago, raz said:

yeah i agree with that.  it caused a lot of headhunting but the injuries didn't come from that.   should have been more specific with my posts.  same reason i don't get why folks want him running again when he plays

I disagree. I think Cam has always been more vulnerable in the pocket than on the run. 

The team did need to check the designed runs, but Norv really did that last season. My issue is Cam staying in the pocket waiting on someone to get open on pass plays when he could clearly just run for a first down. A lot of successfull "passing" QBs will run when it's given to them. It just seems like Cam refuses to do it now.