Plenty of teams interested in Newton trade...

[Mr. Scot]

6 minutes ago, ElkinPanthersFan said:

One thing, how have the delays of games and wasted TO's disappeared when we still have the same Offensive Coordinator and same mismanagement head coach Ron? 

Because apparently it wasn't Ron's fault.

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER said:

probably has something to do with the simplification of the offense with allen at quarterback. less convoluted plays and less options for allen means even this coaching staff can get the call in. idk how many times you need to see cam yelling at the sideline to get the play call in to understand that it was definitely military ron's fault

Credit the Panthers coaches, and in particular offensive coordinator Norv Turner and quarterbacks coach Scott Turner, for putting Kyle Allen in a tremendous position to succeed. Multiple people in that building have told me that Carolina really hasn’t needed to change anything to accommodate its new quarterback, which I’ve found most interesting. In fact, they’ve done a little more with Allen in certain ways, since they don’t have to worry as much about managing the hits he takes in the running game. 

SI.com

[joemac]

25 minutes ago, ElkinPanthersFan said:

So reading through some of your post, I do not believe Kyle Allen to be the savior of the franchise like many want to anoint. Healthy Cam gives this team the best chance to win, but the concern is we may never see that Cam again. It took Olsen basically a full year to get better from it. Cam takes more punishment than Greg does every game, so the risk of having to have surgery on it is real.

Cam has alot of guts to deal with the injuries, play through them, and admit he shouldn't be playing at the same time he put the team in a tough spot by hiding the injury and not giving us the best chance to win those games as he was hurt.

Life after Cam is soon coming and this team must prepare.  If we get offered 3 firsts for Cam, it would be dumb to turn that down. We can't guarantee Cam won't sign elsewhere when his contact is up to not have to deal with Ron anymore. One thing, how have the delays of games and wasted TO's disappeared when we still have the same Offensive Coordinator and same mismanagement head coach Ron? 

LOL Nobody is giving us 3 first rounders for Cam.  Come on now.

[ElkinPanthersFan]

I didn't know Ron calls the Offensive plays that Cam is yelling to the sidelines about. Interesting considering how hands off Ron is about anything Offense in his press conferences. We know Ron loves his conservative playing with a 14 point lead that is a given. We also know Greg has to help Cam call plays in the huddle due to terminology due to Cam's own self admittance. Cam hates the terminology.  Both Ron and Norv have stated they are not dialing back the play book, so again are they lying to sabotage Cam or are they telling the truth? What benefit would Norv and Ron have by telling defenses we are running a Vanilla offense? 

[ElkinPanthersFan]

Just now, joemac said:

Just now, joemac said:

LOL Nobody is giving us 3 first rounders for Cam.  Come on now.

I am only quoting what people have said in this thread. I think 2 is more than fair at this point in his career and with all the unknowns.

 

[rodeo]

if you ask your average person to name all 32 NFL teams, they'd name 31 and struggle to remember the last one. it's the Titans.

they'd go from the absolutely least gave a fug about team in NFL history to the talk of the town and the cocks of the walk if they traded for Cam.

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, joemac said:

LOL Nobody is giving us 3 first rounders for Cam.  Come on now.

Not for this version of him, no.

And I'd say that's one of the reasons why a trade is improbable. Assuming they were interested in doing it (which I don't believe they are) what you'd want for him is likely more than what anyone is willing to offer right now.

That changes if he gets back to health of course, but his getting back to health lessens the impetus to trade him.

[Randolph Panther]

I cant imagine anyone giving two first's for Newton.  If a team did offer two first rounders I would take it.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER said:

lol if you've watched all of these games and believe that allen is doing more. the film guys on twitter have annihilated this narrative but hey don't let what we can all see every sunday get in the way of the narrative you've been pushing for years now

Citing the film guys on Twitter 

[Saca312]

 

[Mr. Scot]

5 minutes ago, GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER said:

posting italicized text without evidence 

keep telling on yourself mr scot

There's a link at the bottom of the post.

(you, in fact, quoted it)

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, Saca312 said:

 

Person said the same thing.

The general belief is that Newton will get his job back this season, though when that happens is a question mark. But even if Allen remains the starter, Newton would be the primary backup.

Next year is when the discussion potentially becomes more wide open.

[Saca312]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Person said the same thing.

The general belief is that Newton will get his job back this season, though when that happens is a question mark. But even if Allen remains the starter, Newton would be the primary backup.

Next year is when the discussion potentially becomes more wide open.

Largely reliant on whether Newton shows he's healthy or not if he gets the job back. 

Which is fair enough. Lots of questions going to be answered with time obviously.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER said:

a link isn't evidence, dork. the film people make evidence based arguments and you hate it because they don't take your precious feelings into account lol

Riiiight