Bradberry Is Going To Be Costly

[Butterflyj30]

They need to pay him!! Good Corners are hard to find

[Anybodyhome]

2 hours ago, electro's horse said:

The only player here the Panthers actually wanted to keep was Deon Grant, but Del Rio made sure he got paid more than Carolina could reasonably offer. 

They just let marshall walk. Dante Wesley was allowed to walk for a comp pick, then came back the following season. Manning was allowed to leave because his game had been ruined by the rule changes. 

Godfrey was given a massive extension and then run out of town. 

You must be joking about losing Sherrod Martin

The Panthers didn't want to pay Marshall and let him walk. They didn't want to pay Wesley and the same goes for Manning. You can philosophize all you want about letting someone walk versus paying them, but the bottom line is this team has never taken DBs seriously enough to open the checkbook. 

When Sherrod Martin was drafted (2nd/58th overall) he was playing with Gamble (1st round), Marshall (2nd round) and Godfrey (3rd round). Know who the starting DBs were when he left? Quintin Mikell, Mike Mitchell, Melvin White and Captain Munnerlyn.

[pantherclaw]

He had already earned a big payday. He just continues to show it. 

[brandon_87]

12 hours ago, Anybodyhome said:

This team, with Hurney as a GM, does not have a favorable history of keeping high price tag DBs. Not saying that can't or won't change, but ...

Not sure, but didn't Gamble get a fat contract extension before he called it quits?

[Anybodyhome]

9 hours ago, brandon_87 said:

Not sure, but didn't Gamble get a fat contract extension before he called it quits?

Yes, he did. But he was the exception. When you go back and look at 25 years of Panther rosters and count less than a half dozen or so impactful DBs, it's fairly obvious the defensive philosophy of the GM lies somewhere else.

It doesn't make sense. You take guys like Norman, Jalen Ramsey, Lattimore, Harris, who essentially take away half the field on passing downs, it does limit the opposing offense. Remember Norman's last season in Charlotte? Nobody would throw to his side of the field. Can you imagine having that DB on your roster for several years? 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, Anybodyhome said:

Yes, he did. But he was the exception. When you go back and look at 25 years of Panther rosters and count less than a half dozen or so impactful DBs, it's fairly obvious the defensive philosophy of the GM lies somewhere else.

It doesn't make sense. You take guys like Norman, Jalen Ramsey, Lattimore, Harris, who essentially take away half the field on passing downs, it does limit the opposing offense. Remember Norman's last season in Charlotte? Nobody would throw to his side of the field. Can you imagine having that DB on your roster for several years? 

Washington imagined it.

They're still imagining it.

[LinvilleGorge]

If you play good they pay good.

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If you play good they pay good.

And then you stop playing good.

(granted, not all the time but it does happen an awful lot)

[Raleigh PF]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

And then you stop playing good.

(granted, not all the time but it does happen an awful lot)

As young as Bradberry and Shaq are, I would be tempted to try to sign one of them to a reasonable 3 or 4-year deal. That gets them to age 29 and they can then cash in on their final FA contract. 

The key here is reasonable. I wouldn't press the issue too far before letting them go and working to find a replacement in the draft. 

Norman was different, as he was already 28 years old when the Panthers released him. Any contract extension would have reached his early 30s. It wasn't handled correctly, but the Panthers were right in not signing Norman to an extension.

[Mr. Scot]

6 minutes ago, Raleigh PF said:

As young as Bradberry and Shaq are, I would be tempted to try to sign one of them to a reasonable 3 or 4-year deal. That gets them to age 29 and they can then cash in on their final FA contract. 

The key here is reasonable. I wouldn't press the issue too far before letting them go and working to find a replacement in the draft. 

Norman was different, as he was already 28 years old when the Panthers released him. Any contract extension would have reached his early 30s. It wasn't handled correctly, but the Panthers were right in not signing Norman to an extension.

Bradberry genuinely seems like the kind of guy who would continue to work his ass off even if he did get paid.

Of course, other guys have "seemed that way" too.

[CRA]

4 minutes ago, bull123 said:

Outside of maybe Manning, all those guys were expendable 

Manning was expendable because of the rule change.  He wasn’t a DB that could play in the pass era 

[Mr. Scot]

4 minutes ago, bull123 said:

Outside of maybe Manning, all those guys were expendable 

Manning became expendable after they changed the rules.

[panthers55]

19 hours ago, Anybodyhome said:

Deon Grant, Dante Wesley, Ricky Manning, Richard Marshall, to name a few. Could also throw in Charles Godfrey and Sherrod Martin for discussion as well.

And I'm not sure about "losing out" to other teams versus just not offering a new contract, because I think both Manning and Marshall signed elsewhere as UFAs. And I'm not saying any of these guys are/were better than Bradberry, but I do most of these guys played on this team when strong DB talent was kinda rare.

So to answer the question, we really didn't lose anyone who we really wanted to keep due to salary issues under Hurney. So there is no reason to believe we won't keep Bradberry or fail to pay him what he was worth.