Call me crazy.. I would rather face Brees than Bridgewater

[Snake]

Just now, kungfoodude said:

The key factors in our games versus NO this year will be Cam's health, the performance of our OL and getting pressure on Drew Brees. If we have a 100% healthy Cam, a 100% healthy OL and we are able to get to Brees, we will win those games.

It will come down to who stays more healthy. 

[FeelTheBurns53]

You can bench a 5-0 Bridgwater bc brees has proven "recently" that he can still tear up the league. 

You can't bench a 4-0 Kyle bc cam has literally not won a game for an entire year. This is a "what have you done for me lately" league and cam hasn't done jack poo, injury plagued or not. 

That's the God hoenst truth, and many Panther fans just don't wanna face reality. 

[kungfoodude]

11 minutes ago, Snake said:

Cam the past two years has been holding us back with playing hurt. 

Agreed. I don't see Kyle being able to beat that team, however. I will be happy to be proved wrong but Cam at 100% is something that is extremely hard to handle.

[lovelett]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

Agreed. I don't see Kyle being able to beat that team, however. I will be happy to be proved wrong but Cam at 100% is something that is extremely hard to handle.

Don’t understand why we can’t all agree good Cam is very good, an MVP. Bad Cam makes Allen look like Bradey vs Tannehill. Non of us know which one is coming back... I want the better one, 80 percent of you want one or the other.

[GRWatcher]

43 minutes ago, Iron Saint said:

Two things which y’all haven’t been able to do consistently against us the last few years. Maybe this year though.

They’re also all better pass rushers than anyone y’all have and they each play multiple positions along the defensive line and they still couldn’t generate squat against our front. 

However, I am curious to see what Burns can do against Ramczyk or Armstead.

Payton started winning against us the year they signed Ginn and Klein who both obviously gave away secrets, especially Klein. It doesn't have much to do with Kamara or Brees or your O-line or your defense. I'm surprised he hasn't signed Ray Ray yet. Maybe in his arrogance he thinks he knows all our secrets. But he doesn't as shown by the last game last year, no matter who played. If the Saints and Payton were as good as advertised and we were as bad as advertised, your team should've been able to sleepwalk through that game with third stringers and win despite Rivera calling defense and Kyle (with Norv) at QB. Oops.

This year the Panthers are a team they have never been before. I'm not going to argue individual players. But know that the defense, offense, and special teams are all very different. And Payton doesn't know them. Film study will only get him so far (because it didn't before signing Klein lol) and I'm optimistic that Rivera and Norv will especially change things up for Saints games. You'd better hedge your bets.

[lovelett]

11 minutes ago, GreensboroPirate said:

In 2015, Andrew Luck threw 15 TDs and 12 interceptions, had a completion percentage of 53%, and the second worst quarterback rating in the NFL.

He lost 6 out of 8 games, Matt Hasselbeck came in and won three straight for the Colts.

Do you think Colts fans were hoping they'd trade Luck, or were they patient, realizing Luck's bad play was a result of injury?

Hindsight being 20/20 with a good reward they do 100 percent or the time. 3 firsts they would be looking at what he brought this year still when he already quit.

[Puddinhead]

21 minutes ago, GRWatcher said:

Payton started winning against us the year they signed Ginn and Klein who both obviously gave away secrets, especially Klein. It doesn't have much to do with Kamara or Brees or your O-line or your defense. I'm surprised he hasn't signed Ray Ray yet. Maybe in his arrogance he thinks he knows all our secrets. But he doesn't as shown by the last game last year, no matter who played. If the Saints and Payton were as good as advertised and we were as bad as advertised, your team should've been able to sleepwalk through that game with third stringers and win despite Rivera calling defense and Kyle (with Norv) at QB. Oops.

This year the Panthers are a team they have never been before. I'm not going to argue individual players. But know that the defense, offense, and special teams are all very different. And Payton doesn't know them. Film study will only get him so far (because it didn't before signing Klein lol) and I'm optimistic that Rivera and Norv will especially change things up for Saints games. You'd better hedge your bets.

Is this guy pulling our collective leg? Or is this a serious take?

[GRWatcher]

1 hour ago, Puddinhead said:

Is this guy pulling our collective leg? Or is this a serious take?

lol serious, rookie. Throwing a different angle out there.  Are you trolling for the Saints?

[Iron Saint]

3 hours ago, lovelett said:

You guys are looking great this year even with Bridgewater.... we are looking great even with Kyle Allen. The bears have a great defense but with there QB situation they just will not win against a team with a defense which you guys have. The bears are in a terrible situation from management.... do you say your 1st round guy is a dud and move on or do you make a move and upgrade and win now... Bridgewater threw some ducks for you that drew wouldn’t but Trubisky missed wide open guys left and right and got lucky on plenty of throws that you guys should/could have picked. You would have put up 50 with Drew.

Indeed, the Bears are in a VERY tight spot with Trubisky who’s looking like a massive Trubust, especially with what they gave up to get him AND what was on the board when they picked.

There was one pass that Bridgewater tried that I did NOT like and was one I was terrified he’d try in a close game that would result in a boneheaded turnover. I don’t remember exactly when it was, but it was about a 20 yard pass to the end zone that he tried to fit between two Bears defenders and I groaned when I saw where it was going thinking it was an easy pick but thankfully it was dropped. And I agree, Brees definitely would’ve carved up that defense.

3 hours ago, Snake said:

Oh just wait. We will get at least 4 sacks and I'm being conservative. All those guys you mentioned don't have the supporting cast we do. Admit it you would love to have McCoy and Poe to play besides Jordan. Well we have that and more. 

At least 4 sacks in each game or total in both games? And Khalil Mack definitely does have a supporting cast like y’all considering they were a top-5 defense before today. WERE.

And LMAO, what?! Um no. Absolutely not, I would not rather Poe or McCoy next to Jordan. That’s just a straight up homer comment right there, LOLOL.

Why would we need McCoy or Poe? We’re not trying to get AARP memberships. Our defense is giving up fewer points/game, fewer yards/game, lower 3rd down conversion %, and a lower 4th down conversion %. 

And that’s without even getting into the contracts. Here’s what y’all are paying McCoy and Poe...

• McCoy (31 years old) - $7.9M
• Poe (29 years old) - $9.3M

Now here’s what we’re paying our starting tackles...

• Rankins (25 years old) - $4.07M
• Brown (25 years old) - $2.5M

Y’all MASSIVELY overpaid for Poe, so bad that y’all likely going to cut him in the off season if he doesn’t take a pay cut or restructure his deal because there’s no way in hell y’all pay a 30 year old NT $13.3M next year. McCoy isn’t even under contract for next year and even if he is re-signed, both of y’all starting DT’s will be on the wrong side of 30 and grossly overpaid due to their names alone.

Meanwhile, Rankins will be on his 5th year option (and more than likely extended) while Brown enters the 2nd year of his 3-year deal he signed in March and combined they’ll be making SLIGHTLY over what y’all have just Poe counting for next year (~$13.7M combined, $7.7M for Rankins’ option and $6M for Brown). 

Y’all better get drafting and replenish with some cheap talent.

3 hours ago, GRWatcher said:

Payton started winning against us the year they signed Ginn and Klein who both obviously gave away secrets, especially Klein. It doesn't have much to do with Kamara or Brees or your O-line or your defense. I'm surprised he hasn't signed Ray Ray yet. Maybe in his arrogance he thinks he knows all our secrets. But he doesn't as shown by the last game last year, no matter who played. If the Saints and Payton were as good as advertised and we were as bad as advertised, your team should've been able to sleepwalk through that game with third stringers and win despite Rivera calling defense and Kyle (with Norv) at QB. Oops.

This year the Panthers are a team they have never been before. I'm not going to argue individual players. But know that the defense, offense, and special teams are all very different. And Payton doesn't know them. Film study will only get him so far (because it didn't before signing Klein lol) and I'm optimistic that Rivera and Norv will especially change things up for Saints games. You'd better hedge your bets.

LMAO, are you seriously clinging onto that Week 17 game last year that we had zero interest in? We had the #1 seed locked up already and had NOTHING to gain from that game. Getting out of that game without any injuries in preparation for the playoffs was the ONLY thought our mind and we accomplished that.

Enjoy your token win, I bet it looks real nice next to the other two morale wins we gave y’all in 2006 and 2009 when we sat and rested our starters then too. Hahahaha. 

[GRWatcher]

1 hour ago, Iron Saint said:

LMAO, are you seriously clinging onto that Week 17 game last year that we had zero interest in? We had the #1 seed locked up already and had NOTHING to gain from that game. Getting out of that game without any injuries in preparation for the playoffs was the ONLY thought our mind and we accomplished that.

Enjoy your token win, I bet it looks real nice next to the other two morale wins we gave y’all in 2006 and 2009 when we sat and rested our starters then too. Hahahaha. 

That's all you have to troll with? Seriously? Nothing about anything else I said? LMAO

[1of10Charnatives]

11 hours ago, PanthersNC1984 said:

Our D is almost custom made to stop a WB like Brees. Bridgewater is young and can make things happen, Brees on the other hand is a pure pocket passer, statue QB, a very VERY good one at that, but I feel this D reminds me of the Greg Hardy and Charles Johnson days when we would wreck havoc and that D always ate against the Saints.

That’s just crazy talk.

Crazy.

[raz]

yeah, brees has never been able to eat us alive.  we've always been able to cover the te in the middle of the field.  payton has never been able to get luke to go the wrong way 80% of the game.   war is peace.  up is down.  freedom is a prison.

and ironsaint, you shut your whore mouth about week 17 last year.  that was our superbowl and we won it.

[Ricky Spanish]

[CRA]

Would I rather face Bridgewater over Brees with a bad hand? Well....maybe but that would mean he has to have a bad hand that makes him inconsistent. 

Healthy? Bridgewater all day.