Greg Olsen Says Panthers Will Roll With Kyle Allen UNTIL Cam Is Healthy

[Asurfaholic]

46 minutes ago, GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER said:

cam has made olsen a lot of money over the years

That’s pretty disrespectful towards Greg who has a ton of talent and toughness of his own. It’s like saying Greg is only good because of Cam- but I’d argue that Greg being the reliable receiver he is has elevated his own worth. Cam and Greg compliment each other. I don’t believe that Cam made Greg talented. 

If Cam was the career maker, we’d still see KB or Funchess out there killing it. It’s pretty obvious that Cam relies on the talent around him for his own good production. When that talent fails, Cam is one of the best at taking things on his own shoulders, but I don’t think for a minute that Greg would be a nobody if it wasn’t for Cam.

[uncfan888]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

A few analysts have suggested they should give it a second thought, but it's been the general assumption from the beginning.

The operative question comes down to two words:

Define "healthy".

If they put cam out in a game, and he isn't able to run around and do cam things, then he isn't healthy. He doesn't have to be 100%, but he also can't be put out there with no threat to run

[SBiii]

2 minutes ago, Asurfaholic said:

...I’d argue that Greg being the reliable receiver he is has elevated his own worth. Cam and Greg compliment each other. I don’t believe that Cam made Greg talented.

Agreed.

In addition, if Greg hadn't been there making sure the plays were called properly Cam wouldn't have accomplished what he has.

[TheRed]

You have to be a special kind of stupid to buy into any narrative that Olsen and Newton are at all at odds in any way shape or form.

The combination of the two has been a joy to witness all these years regardless of what the future may hold, and we are very lucky to have been able to see it.

[uncfan888]

4 minutes ago, Nesbro1 said:

So you essentially just parroted what I have been saying. 

Without the run threat he's not as effective. 

How is he supposed to run fearlessly now when he's 20 to 30 lbs lighter and older and banged up? It's very likely (that while afraid to run may be a bad term) that he might cautiously run.

That's not a recipe for success. If you are going to run it needs to be all out. Sure, slide or get out of bounds but there can't be hesitation in the thought process or action.

I've been saying the same thing forever. I just don't have to bash our QB to do it. That's the difference. You bag on cam every chance you get. That's what makes you a troll. Just like that idiot @SBiii

[Pantherxtreme]

3 minutes ago, TheRed said:

You have to be a special kind of stupid to buy into any narrative that Olsen and Newton are at all at odds in any way shape or form.

The combination of the two has been a joy to witness all these years regardless of what the future may hold, and we are very lucky to have been able to see it.

Literally no one in this thread has suggested Olsen and Newton are are at odds with one another. How many voices you hearing in your head today?

[raz]

that's not what he said at all.   he did the greg thing and praised them both.  he then said when cam was healthy and could run around they would have a very difficult decision on their hands.  i have no idea what op watched but i watched that interview.   anybody can go listen to it somewhere probably.  

shoulda read the thread.  video is up.  op's comprehension is bad.   

[TheRed]

29 minutes ago, Pantherxtreme said:

Literally no one in this thread has suggested Olsen and Newton are are at odds with one another. How many voices you hearing in your head today?

This thread is a continuation of a series of conversations Greg has been having with the media the last several days. I have already seen the implication from some that Olsen is simply towing the company line so to speak and just because he is supportive of Newton publicly doesn't mean he actually feels that way. It's plain to see why some are trying to make that sort of connection. Just as it is plain to see why the sports media keeps asking him about Cam because they know that's ultimately what gets the needle moving with the average feeble minded sports fan types, negative stories about Cam Newton.

[Pantherxtreme]

1 minute ago, raz said:

that's not what he said at all.   he did the greg thing and praised them both.  he then said when cam was healthy and could run around they would have a very difficult decision on their hands.  i have no idea what op watched but i watched that interview.   anybody can go listen to it somewhere probably.  

I think Olsen favors having a healthy Newton back, Olsen has been Cam's favorite receiver since he was drafted. 

He did mention the coaching staff was going to have a tough decision to make when Cam is healthy. The dilemma will be if the Panthers keep winning its going to be extremely difficult to pull Allen at that point. 

[raz]

Just now, Pantherxtreme said:

I think Olsen favors having a healthy Newton back, Olsen has been Cam's favorite receiver since he was drafted. 

He did mention the coaching staff was going to have a tough decision to make when Cam is healthy. The dilemma will be if the Panthers keep winning its going to be extremely difficult to pull Allen at that point. 

he's pulling for them both.  they're co-workers and i'd imagine friends.   it doesn't sound like cam is any where near where reports placed him but we'll find out more this week.  hopefully

[raz]

3 minutes ago, TheRed said:

This thread is a continuation of a series of conversations Greg has been having with the media the last several days. I have already seen the implication from some that Olsen is simply towing the company line so to speak and just because he is supportive of Newton publicly doesn't mean he actually feels that way. It's plain to see why some are trying to make that sort of connection, just as it is plain to see why the sports media keeps asking him about Cam because they know that's ultimately what gets the needle moving with the average feeble minded sports fan types, negative stories about Cam Newton.

where are people saying olsen doesn't like cam behind the scenes?  that's crazy.  where have you seen this implication? or are you making it up?

[TheRed]

3 minutes ago, raz said:

where are people saying olsen doesn't like cam behind the scenes?  that's crazy.  where have you seen this implication? or are you making it up?

You talking down to someone about making things up?

You've been littering your unwanted rabble rabble dad jean ramblings about the inner workings of Cam Newton for the past 48 hours, if you don't like what I post dont read it.

[raz]

Just now, TheRed said:

You've been littering your unwanted rabble rabble dad jean ramblings about the inner workings of Cam Newton for the past 48 hours, if you don't like what I post dont read it.

where did you find implications that greg doesn't like cam behind the scenes.  you totally made that up

[TheRed]

5 minutes ago, raz said:

where did you find implications that greg doesn't like cam behind the scenes.  you totally made that up

There has been discussion on how better the offense is running and the usage of timeouts and the play clock and then going back to how Olsen had to help Newton in the huddle. It's all there, some people are wanting a rift. And again, that is why the media keeps asking Olsen about this. That's the only answer they want because they know that's what types like you like that stay up all night obsessing over it.