Willie McGinnest talks about Kyle vs Cam

[raz]

10 minutes ago, WoahW said:

Strange how it’s the same 2 or 3 posters who have since the beginning had the racial undertones now acting shocked when called out for what it is. fuging pathetic 

or the same 2 or 3 who have had the opinon that cams not the best person to lead the franchise.  you wanna know who's racist and who is not on the board?   go read through the tinderbox.   you'll be surprised. and probably damaged and upset even more than you already are.  the known racists leave it in the tinderbox and their football discussion doesn't seem to be racist at all.   you'll also figure out who is literally out of their mind wacko

[bandu]

19 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

im not racist, but I am a proud catholic, and I don't want a filthy protestant like kyle allen as my team's qb

get over it because Kyle Allen is a gift from the football Gods 

 

[steven8989]

42 minutes ago, raz said:

or the same 2 or 3 who have had the opinon that cams not the best person to lead the franchise.  you wanna know who's racist and who is not on the board?   go read through the tinderbox.   you'll be surprised. and probably damaged and upset even more than you already are.  the known racists leave it in the tinderbox and their football discussion doesn't seem to be racist at all.   you'll also figure out who is literally out of their mind wacko

It's because they have nothing else to come back with on why Cam should be a starter, it's ur racist. I've never been a racist and have always been a Cam fan. He came out and said he played hurt and costs us 2 games this year. He did the same thing last year, he cost us 7 games before he decided to call it quits last year. I'm not happy with him costing us all the games and if u are a true fan u wouldn't be happy about it either. He cost us last year and got us in hole to start this year. This is not about him, it's about the team. They are playing well without him and don't need to changePERIOD

[raz]

7 minutes ago, steven8989 said:

It's because they have nothing else to come back with on why Cam should be a starter, it's ur racist. I've never been a racist and have always been a Cam fan. He came out and said he played hurt and costs us 2 games this year. He did the same thing last year, he cost us 7 games before he decided to call it quits last year. I'm not happy with him costing us all the games and if u are a true fan u wouldn't be happy about it either. He cost us last year and got us in hole to start this year. This is not about him, it's about the team. They are playing well without him and don't need to changePERIOD

i don't know, have you heard the recent rumors that kyle is a protestant?

[raz]

7 minutes ago, steven8989 said:

It's because they have nothing else to come back with on why Cam should be a starter, it's ur racist. I've never been a racist and have always been a Cam fan. He came out and said he played hurt and costs us 2 games this year. He did the same thing last year, he cost us 7 games before he decided to call it quits last year. I'm not happy with him costing us all the games and if u are a true fan u wouldn't be happy about it either. He cost us last year and got us in hole to start this year. This is not about him, it's about the team. They are playing well without him and don't need to changePERIOD

that dude is gonna be surprised if he reads the tinderbox and finds out he has some racists in his cam or die camp.  head will explode

[Cary Kollins]

36 minutes ago, steven8989 said:

 He came out and said he played hurt and costs us 2 games this year. He did the same thing last year, he cost us 7 games before he decided to call it quits last year. I'm not happy with him costing us all the games and if u are a true fan u wouldn't be happy about it either. He cost us last year and got us in hole to start this year.

 

Little known fact: it's actually the head coaches job to decide when to sit a player who is clearly dealing with injuries.

Guess we should blame Cam for being a fugging warrior and putting his own body and long-term well being on the line because he felt like he gave this team the best chance to win.

 

[Cpt slay a ho]

What’s going to be idiotic is the people who fallen in love with 5 games from Kyle Allen end up being the same ones to blame the FO and Rivera if he ends up being a flash in the pan and we cut bait with cam and have to start our qb search all over again.

I’m not trying to hand the keys of the franchise over to Kyle after 5 games, it’s cool to be behind camera or behind a keyboard and make bold predictions without any consequences, but these hot takes are asinine.   

[Navy_football]

4 minutes ago, Cary Kollins said:

 

Little known fact: it's actually the head coaches job to decide when to sit a player who is clearly dealing with injuries.

Guess we should blame Cam for being a fugging warrior and putting his own body and long-term well being on the line because he felt like he gave this team the best chance to win.

 

Why is this so difficult to understand?

Cam can decide if he DOES NOT play, but coaches decide if he DOES.

If Cam would have pulled himself in the preseason after he hurt his foot, and Kyle came in and lost the first 2-3 games - then Cam would have been weak and not a team player.

And if Turner didn't get injured, I'm convinced we never would have discovered Little or Daley at LT. The team would have kept marching out the worst LT in the NFL, even though TWO better options were on the bench and another was playing RT. Maybe Cam wouldn't have hurt his foot in the first place if the oline personnel wasn't so horribly mismanaged. 

 

[Navy_football]

Willie McGinnest doesn't know anything about the Panthers and Cam Newton. FTR I think he's a really good game analyst, but I honestly don't think he watches the Panthers unless they're playing NE. 

If Cam comes back healthy, he is a better option than Kyle. Now that might change in a year or two. Kyle has shown a ton of potential to be great! But right now, Kyle at his best can't touch Cam at his best. Cam just needs to stop trying to appease the masses and run the ball when it's there. Watson, Rodgers, Lamar Jackson, Wilson and Mahomes all made big plays with their feet in their last games - and they're the favorites for this year's MVP. The name of the game is moving the chains and getting another set of downs to work with. No one cares how you do it. 

[Mr. Scot]

8 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

Willie McGinnest doesn't know anything about the Panthers and Cam Newton. FTR I think he's a really good game analyst, but I honestly don't think he watches the Panthers unless they're playing NE. 

If Cam comes back healthy, he is a better option than Kyle. Now that might change in a year or two. Kyle has shown a ton of potential to be great! But right now, Kyle at his best can't touch Cam at his best. Cam just needs to stop trying to appease the masses and run the ball when it's there. Watson, Rodgers, Lamar Jackson, Wilson and Mahomes all made big plays with their feet in their last games - and they're the favorites for this year's MVP. The name of the game is moving the chains and getting another set of downs to work with. No one cares how you do it. 

Opinions on McGinest aside, other than the "Cam won't be here next year " part, Steve Smith said the same thing.

[ickmule]

My eyes tell me the team is responding differently with Allen playing. I guess once Cam comes back we will find out real quick how correct that vision is.  

[Fox007]

37 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

What’s going to be idiotic is the people who fallen in love with 5 games from Kyle Allen end up being the same ones to blame the FO and Rivera if he ends up being a flash in the pan and we cut bait with cam and have to start our qb search all over again.

I’m not trying to hand the keys of the franchise over to Kyle after 5 games, it’s cool to be behind camera or behind a keyboard and make bold predictions without any consequences, but these hot takes are asinine.   

Everyone should make fun of the FO is Cam just walks. If Cam goes he better leave behind a hand full of draft picks.

[Navy_football]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Opinions on McGinest aside, other than the "Cam won't be here next year " part, Steve Smith said the same thing.

Steve Smith has already been on record as questioning Cam's passing ability, so I don't question that at all. 

I think WRs (and pocket passing QBs) would look at a QBs "ability" different than most others. They probably have predetermined notions of how a QB should play. When at the end of the day, as long as you move the chains and score TDs, you're doing your job. 

[ncfan]

4 hours ago, CPcavedweller said:

Kyle Allen Passer Rating - 106.6

20 points higher than Cam's average and probably better than any 5 game stretch in Cam's career. 

Smh

Comparing 4 games vs 8 years

 

How about Cam's 4 ganes prior to the shoulder injury last year

 

111.175 Rating

5 points higher than Allen

 

 

 

#CamHaterClub