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"London Panthers has a nice ring to it!"


Carl Spackler

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1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

They're about to spend how many millions of dollars building a practice facility / team headquarters in Rock Hill... and then they're gonna move and leave it behind? :thinking:

(does not compute, Will Robinson)

Agreed. But the Huddle tin foil hat brigade takes a tweet to mean Charlotte is losing it's NFL franchise.

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1 hour ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

True. 

But also makes me curious about the financing of that lavish stadium we did just play in. Who paid for it? Was there any public funds involved or no?

 

1 hour ago, Tbe said:

Taxpayers do pay (at least partly) for stadiums. Those deals get a lot more criticism though. I’m sure everything would go smoothly for a billionaire American hedge fund owner in post brexit Britain ;)

West Ham’s ‘London Stadium’ was taxpayer-funded as part of the London Olympics. Then more money was spent making it marginally more soccer-friendly, with the cost shared between the taxpayer and the club. To much outcry.

Otherwise the top league stadia are paid for by the club, and fully owned thereafter. The stadia get financed by:

- The selling of the site of their old stadium (usually downtown locations) to property developers

- Naming rights and other corporate deals

- A few years of ‘austerity’ hence the likes of Arsenal and Spurs losing competitiveness in the transfer window.

- Hosting a lot of events at the stadium - 25-30 football matches, summer concerts etc. Arsenal generate £100 million in matchday revenue ALONE.

- Prem clubs have mad revenue streams:


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Source: https://amp.theguardian.com/football/2019/may/22/premier-league-finances-club-guide-2017-18-accounts-manchester-united-city

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3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I thought the Jags were kind of London's favorite team since they've been over there so much.

It'd be kind of fun if we replaced them in that role.

That’s a hell of a definition of “fun” that you seem to have. Granted, if you had no ties to the Carolinas, it’d be justified to some extent. 

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5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I thought the Jags were kind of London's favorite team since they've been over there so much.

It'd be kind of fun if we replaced them in that role.

I'm still wondering if all the soothsayers that predicted Khan would move the Jags to London are still in business.

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6 minutes ago, Trev_GFC said:

 

West Ham’s ‘London Stadium’ was taxpayer-funded as part of the London Olympics. Then more money was spent making it marginally more soccer-friendly, with the cost shared between the taxpayer and the club. To much outcry.

Otherwise the top league stadia are paid for by the club, and fully owned thereafter. The stadia get financed by:

- The selling of the site of their old stadium (usually downtown locations) to property developers

- Naming rights and other corporate deals

- A few years of ‘austerity’ hence the likes of Arsenal and Spurs losing competitiveness in the transfer window.

- Hosting a lot of events at the stadium - 25-30 football matches, summer concerts etc. Arsenal generate £100 million in matchday revenue ALONE.

- Prem clubs have mad revenue streams:


155CFBBA-4EE5-4B0C-A709-98C6FE845C64.thumb.jpeg.1a5441b6e1d0a5f98799849a65dc9c3e.jpeg

Source: https://amp.theguardian.com/football/2019/may/22/premier-league-finances-club-guide-2017-18-accounts-manchester-united-city

Nice find.

Yeah 25-30 games would help quite a bit. I wonder what ticket prices are?

The NFL shares rev so its a different thing , but still a good model for Tepper to emulate as much as he can.

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10 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I thought the Jags were kind of London's favorite team since they've been over there so much.

It'd be kind of fun if we replaced them in that role.

They were heavily linked over here in the UK with being the team to move here, but then had a decent season and their crowds/marketability in the US grew. This hasn’t stopped their owner from attempting to buy Wembley stadium! He’s refuted claims that this is for NFL uses but still.

I’m not looking too much into Panthers moving out, although I sometimes get annoyed when I see so many blue seats in the BofA on the TV, given the franchise movement recently.

I believe a franchise moving to London is a possibility despite the extra flying/check-in times for one main reason: Spurs wouldn’t build a ‘purpose-built NFL stadium’ for just two International Series games a year.

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21 minutes ago, Tbe said:

Nice find.

Yeah 25-30 games would help quite a bit. I wonder what ticket prices are?

The NFL shares rev so its a different thing , but still a good model for Tepper to emulate as much as he can.

Prem tickets are around £30 on average, and capped at £30 for away fans. The majority of the crowd will be season ticket holders with season tickets ranging from £400-500 up North to £1,000+ at the London clubs in affluent areas. Remember there’s no PSLs, though you may have to pay £20-30 for membership for priority.

There’s a campaign to limit all non-executive tickets to £20 - arguing ticket revenue from non-executive seats isn’t particularly lucrative for the clubs. 

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