10+ NFL teams really interested in seeing if Cam Newton goes up for trade

[MechaZain]

man if we run Kemba AND Cam out of town...

[ickmule]

1 minute ago, Kinographer said:

I can't wait until he's gone just so all the shitty Auburn fans on here go with him.

 

Once he's on another team their coach, offensive line, and receivers will instantly suck 

^^^^^^

[MVPccaffrey]

If there's a universe where you could get multiple 1sts for Cam - which almost certainly isn't the case - you do that without thinking.  Combine with the talent we already have, and overnight we'd instantly be one of the three most talented teams in the league with tons of capspace to boot.  Every GM's dream.

[*FreeFua*]

3 hours ago, MVPccaffrey said:

10 teams?  I don't see it.

MAYBE Tampa, Washington, Chicago, Denver, Tennessee, maybe.  And most of those would probably rather just draft a new QB since they aren't in contending windows, save Chicago.  

If you can get a 1st rounder, you do it and don't think twice.  Use the free cap space to load up for the years remaining on KA's rookie deal like Philadelphia, Seattle, and SF did this decade.

Cincy, Buffalo, Miami, Dallas, Oakland, LA Chargers, Indy

Theres 7 more teams that could possibly trade for him on top of your 5. Miami wouldn’t have to trade us their 1st rounder next year. Dalton, Josh Allen, Prescott, Carr are all garbage. Rivers is old and Brisett well he’s basically a placeholder. 
 

You’d be stupid to think that there wouldn’t be a bunch of teams having some serious internal discussions if Cam Newton became available in a trade. 

[Sgt Schultz]

2 hours ago, GreensboroPirate said:

It would be very stupid to trade Cam Newton, but you always got the sense Ron Rivera did not like Cam Newton, even tho he saved his job on numerous occasions

-"I'd have taken a shot myself"

-Benched him for not wearing a tie

-Used him like a battering ram, with no concern for concussions or long term damage

The last one is the one that worries me the most about any discussion of Cam returning to form.  His shoulder may well be okay, the foot will heal, but having used him like that for all these years makes me concerned about "what's next?"  And as father time passes, the human body appreciates the task of healing less and less. 

I am hoping what we see when he does come back is not 2015 all over again, but a sustained run of games with nothing other than minor nicks and bumps, an ability to get the ball downfield when called upon, and the ability to move around to allow receivers to get open by scaring the bejeezuz out of defenders about what he might do.....and hopefully does not need to.  Oh, and having learned from watching the last few weeks that there is no rule requiring the snap not be made until 3 seconds or less remains on the play clock.

[Mr. Scot]

52 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

Oh come on Scot. This is a QB driven league.

I know you'd prefer to move on but it's not that simple a decision for the guys who actually employ these guys.

How good would Kyle or hurt Cam look without McCaffrey? Allen in reality is pedestrian. These have been team wins not QB wins.

Allen hasn't been the sole reason we've been winning. He himself said that.

Using this way of thinking, Ryan Fitzpatrick is an extremely valuable commodity. After all, he plays quarterback, and quarterback is the most important position 

And like I asked someone else, are we going to go back and look at every game where a receiver or running back played great or the defense was dominant and subtract those from Cam Newton's win total as well? After all, I'm sure Newton himself would tell you he wasn't the sole reason we were winning.

Bottom Line:.The possibility of Kyle Allen being our quarterback of the future is, for the moment, actually real. By the end of the season, it could be even more real, or it could be totally unreal. No way to know, and I frankly don't care how it turns out as long as it's the best thing for the team.

Independent of how Kyle Allen performs, there is the possibility that Newton comes back and plays well, that he comes back and doesn't play well or that he doesn't come back at all.  It's wide open.

But whatever happens, I don't give a rat's ass about stats, and I don't care who ends up starting. Winning is all that matters.

Who does it doesn't mean jack.

[LinvilleGorge]

For everyone ready to punt on Cam and turn the reigns over to Kyle Allen, beware the recent cautionary tale of Case Keenum. The Jake Delhommes and Kurt Warner's are far and few between. Most of these guys end up being more like Case Keenum in the long run.

[Zeek]

1 hour ago, MVPccaffrey said:

If there's a universe where you could get multiple 1sts for Cam - which almost certainly isn't the case - you do that without thinking.  Combine with the talent we already have, and overnight we'd instantly be one of the three most talented teams in the league with tons of capspace to boot.  Every GM's dream.

Yup but I don’t think you’d get more than a 1st round and maybe a 3rd round right now. Just based off injury history.

It’s a pointless thread. There’s people who wish nothing but ill on Cam, others who will defend him to death, those who just want the team to win, and a few who want the whole world to burn. 

[Sgt Schultz]

Right now, I doubt anybody would give anything of value until we/they see that Cam is healthy.  There are just too many questions.  Somebody could toss out a 3rd or 4th, but that would be a gamble and that might have a contingency as to what we get.  And as others have said, if Cam comes back and is healthy, he is not likely on the trade market, anyway.

I said this a couple of weeks ago, and I think it is still true.  The person whose future Allen's performance has most impacted is Grier, not Cam.

Think back.  If you had told us in August that Cam was going to be out after game 2 until at least the bye week, and we were going to start out 0-2, how many people would have said we would hit the bye at 4-2?  3-3?  Even 2-4?  The knock on our roster, other than a questionable OL was that we had no depth behind Cam Newton.  Grier was drafted to become that depth.

I think we would have had more people answer the above question with 0-6 than 4-2.

Oh, and if I am Cam or any QB and the discussion is trading me to Cleveland or Washington, I just hang it up.  Those are graveyards for QBs.

[JARROD]

If the team pulls a Gruden and gets a couple of 1sts and another 3rd for Cam and then some,.. so be it.

you do that during the season and you had better hope you make it to the NFC CHampionship at least....

Tepper has a brass boot too!

[Cpt slay a ho]

Being in Georgia, every falcons fan is praying we run cam out of town like idiots

just like we are hoping they run Ryan out of town

[rippadonn]

50 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Using this way of thinking, Ryan Fitzpatrick is an extremely valuable commodity. After all, he plays quarterback, and quarterback is the most important position 

And like I asked someone else, are we going to go back and look at every game where a receiver or running back played great or the defense was dominant and subtract those from Cam Newton's win total as well? After all, I'm sure Newton himself would tell you he wasn't the sole reason we were winning.

Bottom Line:.The possibility of Kyle Allen being our quarterback of the future is, for the moment, actually real. By the end of the season, it could be even more real, or it could be totally unreal. No way to know, and I frankly don't care how it turns out as long as it's the best thing for the team.

Independent of how Kyle Allen performs, there is the possibility that Newton comes back and plays well, that he comes back and doesn't play well or that he doesn't come back at all.  It's wide open.

But whatever happens, I don't give a rat's ass about stats, and I don't care who ends up starting. Winning is all that matters.

Who does it doesn't mean jack.

Ryan Fitz isn't a franchise QB Cam is, like his win percentage with guys like Kelvin Benjamin and Devin Funchess or not, he IS a franchise QB. To cast a franchise QB away without having a franchise QB is NFL suicide. It won't happen because they want to win now.

If you are anti-Rivera/Cam there are plenty of teams that would take both almost immediately. Tepper could have immediately cleaned house but he didn't. The FO changed dramatically, why not the coaching staff? Because he's a smart guy.

Can the team lean on Kyle Allen if injuries pile up and there's no blocking, receivers are dropping and the game plan in general is questionable at best? I've seen Cam win in spite of all those things. Show some respect.

 

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

Ryan Fitz isn't a franchise QB Cam is, like his win percentage with guys like Kelvin Benjamin and Devin Funchess or not, he IS a franchise QB. To cast a franchise QB away without having a franchise QB is NFL suicide. It won't happen because they want to win now.

If you are anti-Rivera/Cam there are plenty of teams that would take both almost immediately. Tepper could have immediately cleaned house but he didn't. The FO changed dramatically, why not the coaching staff? Because he's a smart guy.

Can the team lean on Kyle Allen if injuries pile up and there's no blocking, receivers are dropping and the game plan in general is questionable at best? I've seen Cam win in spite of all those things. Show some respect.

Can Allen do that? Maybe. We don't know yet.

Cam Newton still do that? Again, maybe. We don't really know.

What I do know is that "respect" for past performances doesn't mean jack sh-t. The only thing that matters is how things are right now.

"Respect" is what leads you to do things like offering Jake Delhomme a big extension after the Cardinals playoff game.

[AceBoogie]

5 hours ago, 45catfan said:

Would that mean the handful of Cam fans would go with him and leave the Panthers fans here to cheer on this team?  Players come and go, but I cheer for this organization.

A lot of y’all are cheering for anyone not named Cam let’s be honest. We aren’t Cam fans. We recognize that he’s the best QB on the roster and the defense and CMC playing lights out over the past few weeks doesn’t change that. When’s the last time the defense got 7 turnovers in a game? I bet we won that one too.