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Bucs DC said Kyle Allen presented more of a challenge than Cam


Jeremy Igo

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1 hour ago, TheMostInterestingMan said:

I’m not even really surprised that this place has somehow gotten even worse since we have gone on a huge winning streak...

For 90% of us, we are just excited to be winning football games again. For the other 10%, it’s a social justice fight against racism and they are beginning to cheer against Allen to see it through.

Well I’ve said all along I want Cam back when healthy, but with each passing week I’m realizing that KA might well have won his job. I guess that will make Rivera, Nora, stepper, the team, hell it probably even makes Allen a racist huh? 

Can we just enjoy the damn games and be excited we have the kid? Be excited we are winning? Can we enjoy an unstaffed FA that is 5-0 with no career interceptions without that making us fugging racists?! If it’s all you have to offer here, go back to your fugging tinderbox forums and bounce woke memes off each other. The rest of us just want to be excited about Panther football. A holes

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To be honest, the more I'm reviewing the Tampa game and looking at the Bucs defensive gameplan, the more I think Eisen likely misheard Bowle's quote.

Tampa's defense did NOT respect Allen as a QB. They were keyed and glued in on stopping McCaffrey from the very start. I think what would make more sense is if Allen presented a different approach in terms of their defensive gameplan rather than "difficulty." They seemed to acknowledge that Allen tended to go for McCaffrey and the outlets at a very high frequency, which can be a negative in the context that Allen has left big plays on the field in favor of going for the safer option.

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6 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

To be honest, the more I'm reviewing the Tampa game and looking at the Bucs defensive gameplan, the more I think Eisen likely misheard Bowle's quote.

Tampa's defense did NOT respect Allen as a QB. They were keyed and glued in on stopping McCaffrey from the very start. I think what would make more sense is if Allen presented a different approach in terms of their defensive gameplan rather than "difficulty." They seemed to acknowledge that Allen tended to go for McCaffrey and the outlets at a very high frequency, which can be a negative in the context that Allen has left big plays on the field in favor of going for the safer option.

Plus he should know that Cam decimated his Cardinals defense in the NFC championship so I really have my doubts on the validity of Eisen's perspective.

Bowles was not the DC of that Cardinals defense. He was the HC of the Jets in 2015 so I really have my doubts about the validity of your perspective.

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19 minutes ago, Bartin said:

Bowles was not the DC of that Cardinals defense. He was the HC of the Jets in 2015 so I really have my doubts about the validity of your perspective.

Blipped my mind with Arians and Bowles. Bad mistake on my part.

Either way, still doesn't discredit the fact that Bowles seemed to be very keen on underestimating Kyle Allen with his gameplan.

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I don't know why people think what Allen is doing is pedestrian, or that he himself is, have you seen our team with anyone who is not Kyle Allen? This team is not good enough to be carried by some nobody at QB, and to think anyone can come in and do what Kyle has done, or think he is just a backup, is pretty silly. We are not 4-0 with Taylor Heinecke, Derek Anderson, Garrett Gilbert, or injured Cam.

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1 hour ago, Saca312 said:

To be honest, the more I'm reviewing the Tampa game and looking at the Bucs defensive gameplan, the more I think Eisen likely misheard Bowle's quote.

Tampa's defense did NOT respect Allen as a QB. They were keyed and glued in on stopping McCaffrey from the very start. I think what would make more sense is if Allen presented a different approach in terms of their defensive gameplan rather than "difficulty." They seemed to acknowledge that Allen tended to go for McCaffrey and the outlets at a very high frequency, which can be a negative in the context that Allen has left big plays on the field in favor of going for the safer option.

In all honesty McCaffrey has been ripping teams apart in air and ground. It was the same game plan they used on Newton. Basically tell the Panthers you can't win without McCaffrey. It backfired horribly with Allen. 

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58 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

Blipped my mind with Arians and Bowles. Bad mistake on my part.

Either way, still doesn't discredit the fact that Bowles seemed to be very keen on underestimating Kyle Allen with his gameplan.

It wasn't underestimating him. It was more not letting McCaffrey take over the Game. If he didn't respect Allen he didn't respect Newton either because it was the very same game plan. 

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