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Cam has played 125 regular season games and has never won 5 straight without throwing a pick. Kyle did that in his first 5 games.


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1 minute ago, ecu88 said:

TBF the last one is this season.

Yea I realized that after the post heh. Doesn’t change the other seasons with only 3 or 5 fumbles. In the 3 fumble season, even if they were spread out perfectly, it would have included a stretch of 5 games at some point. 

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Just now, JawnyBlaze said:

Yea I realized that after the post heh. Doesn’t change the other seasons with only 3 or 5 fumbles. In the 3 fumble season, even if they were spread out perfectly, it would have included a stretch of 5 games at some point. 

Correction, two seasons with only three fumbles

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26 minutes ago, Sam Mills Fan said:

I gave the caveat that Kyle has won 5 straight without throwing a pick. Cam hasn't even gone 5 straight regular season games without throwing a pick period regardless of whether we won or lost.

To be honest Kyle has had a great set of circumstances to work with. Norv system isn't hard. Running backs are the star. It's really a plug in play system so yes it makes him look good. I really don't care if CAM plays another game as a panther I just want him to be healthy when and wherever he plays. Things change. Comparing Kyle to Cam is not even fair considering all things. Keep your Kyle and let Cam go somewhere else. Has every elite QB did what you say Kyle has. Does this stat make him better than those that haven't? That is the question u should ask yourself!

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kyle allen can play conservatively and the team around him is good enough to win.

from receivers to defense to special teams this has rarely been the case for cam, and when it has he's outshined nearly everyone. when it hasn't he hasn't been able to afford to play conservatively. cam throws picks because he takes shots at game-breaking plays, which is what ultimately makes him great.

OP is a dumb poo and anyone fixated on the (genuinely remarkable, objectively) 5-0 stat as an indictment of cam's play is a dumber poo.

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Kyle Allen and Cam Newton are two different players. While Newton was more dynamic in his prime I think that's over. Allen might be exactly what we need to win it all. He's a hard QB to beat. This isn't a knock on Newton as much as it's props to Allen. 

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23 minutes ago, Sam Mills Fan said:

Yeah I'm definitely not bashing Cam. Just putting what Kyle has done in perspective for those that think it's so easy.

What does the question mean what are u implying? Just throwing out random stats but yea not bashing Cam. Im glad panthers are winning and at this point I say play Kyle until or if it goes south.

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2 minutes ago, PhillyB said:

kyle allen can play conservatively and the team around him is good enough to win.

from receivers to defense to special teams this has rarely been the case for cam, and when it has he's outshined nearly everyone. when it hasn't he hasn't been able to afford to play conservatively. cam throws picks because he takes shots at game-breaking plays, which is what ultimately makes him great.

OP is a dumb poo and anyone fixated on the (genuinely remarkable, objectively) 5-0 stat as an indictment of cam's play is a dumber poo.

You show your bias calling Allen conservative. He thows in tight windows and better than Cam has ever. Allen is just simply a better passer than Cam. 

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3 minutes ago, Darvinsun said:

What does the question mean what are u implying? Just throwing out random stats but yea not bashing Cam. Im glad panthers are winning and at this point I say play Kyle until or if it goes south.

When is it going "South"? DCs have said how hard he is to game plan for. It's not like he's unknown. Cam was great in his prime running and passing off that but now we have a rare QB who is better. 

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1 minute ago, Snake said:

You show your bias calling Allen conservative. He thows in tight windows and better than Cam has ever. Allen is just simply a better passer than Cam. 

That is incredibly false. Cam’s thrown into tighter windows and thrown better passes than anything Allen’s shown yet.  Allen has shown nothing even remotely close to the sort of throws like when Cam threw the curveball around the Atlanta defender and Ed Dickson caught it in the end zone, among many many other plays. Maybe one day Allen will be a better passer than Cam, but he isn’t yet. 

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2 minutes ago, Snake said:

You show your bias calling Allen conservative. He thows in tight windows and better than Cam has ever. Allen is just simply a better passer than Cam. 

Lord i commend the play that Allen has shown but to say that well. U went to the extreme. Just say it. U want Kyle get rid of Newton its ok. That name u have it fits your words.

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