Cam has played 125 regular season games and has never won 5 straight without throwing a pick. Kyle did that in his first 5 games.

[Sam Mills Fan]

I'm at a lame 50/50 right now as to who I want to start after the bye, but if anyone tries poo-poohing what Kyle Allen has done or tells you that it's offensive or moronic to want Kyle to keep starting, just show them that stat. Kyle makes the least amount of money on the team and his best days are clearly still ahead of him. Cam makes the most amount of money and his best days are clearly behind him. It's a very tough decision as to who starts going forward no matter what anybody says.

[saX man]

This week gon be funnnnnn

[JawnyBlaze]

Kyle has been great for what he is. But he also hasn’t been nearly as much a one man show as Cam’s had to be the majority of his career. Allen makes less mistakes for sure, but also fewer big plays.  My opinion remains the same as it was after his two poor games. Thrilled to have Allen as our backup, can’t wait for Cam to get healthy. 

[trucpfan]

2 minutes ago, saX man said:

This week gon be funnnnnn

Lmfaoooo we got two weeks of this but it’s a good problem to have.

[Cpt slay a ho]

Worst case we get Case Keenum’d than what.....

 

5 Games isn’t enough of a sample size to replace a healthy cam, it’s short sighted 

[Sam Mills Fan]

I gave the caveat that Kyle has won 5 straight without throwing a pick. Cam hasn't even gone 5 straight regular season games without throwing a pick period regardless of whether we won or lost.

[JawnyBlaze]

Also I’m not trying to just play Cam-defense or knock Allen, but I doubt Cam ever had a stretch of three games with 6 or 7 fumbles either.  No picks is great for Allen, but no turnovers would actually be something worth mentioning. 

[Pejorative Miscreant]

It’s not that easy.  Kyle Allen has never won an MVP or ran the ball for more than 4 yards.  Not poo poing KA but you can cherry pick a stat or two.  
A healthy  Cam is a better QB and athlete than KA but I thing at this point in time (winning and it making mistakes ) KA is a better choice at QB.  At some point KA gets benched for Cam but it won’t be in SF.   

[the butch]

Our W-L record when Cam turns the ball over (interception or fumble) is interesting.

[Sam Mills Fan]

Just now, Pejorative Miscreant said:

It’s not that easy.  Kyle Allen has never won an MVP or ran the ball for more than 4 yards.  Not poo poing KA but you can cherry pick a stat or two.  
A healthy  Cam is a better QB and athlete than KA but I thing at this point in time (winning and it making mistakes ) KA is a better choice at QB.  At some point KA gets benched for Cam but it won’t be in SF.   

And I'm not saying to keep starting Allen. I just want the man to get the respect he's earned. There was a stupid Twitter thread that went semi-viral on Panthers Twitter last week that showed how Allen "doesn't really know how to play QB". What a joke. To be so good so early as an undrafted guy and to not throw any picks...it's really just amazing. If they keep riding Allen, I'll completely get it.

[countryboi]

those 4 fumbles may as well be ints...they are all turnovers. Yall dudes get a boner shittin on Cam to build Kyle up. 

[Wolfcop]

I'm all for Allen staying in as the starter, but let's not bash Cam in the process. Cam is one of a kind and I hope he comes back healthy at some point and regains his old form.

[OneBadCat]

4 minutes ago, JawnyBlaze said:

Kyle has been great for what he is. But he also hasn’t been nearly as much a one man show as Cam’s had to be the majority of his career. Allen makes less mistakes for sure, but also fewer big plays.  My opinion remains the same as it was after his two poor games. Thrilled to have Allen as our backup, can’t wait for Cam to get healthy. 

For me the difference is that Allen’s “big play” ability is that he sustains drives. He also makes the lay up throws that Cam sometimes misses and it makes it easier for the offense to stay on the field. The big plays come from the weapons doing it for Allen. Maybe some of that isn’t fair to say as we haven’t seen Cam truly healthy this year. But if I had to compare their games that would be one difference.

He’s definitely not the playmaking stud Cam is but we also haven’t seen Allen peak yet and you can’t deny that the team has something going on right now.

The Panthers are looking like a playoff team. I’m  very torn on it because I love Cam to death but at this point I don’t see Ron jeopardizing a win steak until Allen gets exploited or plays really bad.

[gmonjimbo]

We don't have to prop up one player by bashing another, then cherry pick stats to support a narrative. I am happy with the way Kyle Allen is playing and he shouldn't be pulled until Cam is 100% healthy. However, there should be a serious discussion if he wins at San Fran whether he should hold the job permanently for the rest of the season.