I don't think we can bench Kyle Allen...

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, raz said:

that's the 4 game avg.   from this season.    deal with it.   baby goat is a better choice than giant toddler man right now.

I agree. Because Cam is injured.

[jfra78]

3 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

Those teams weren't the rams... nobody we have played with allen is that calliber..

 

[jtm]

Cam’s last win was November of 2018. We don’t even know if Cam “still has it” after all the injuries. 

[ecu88]

12 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

Those teams weren't the rams... nobody we have played with allen is that calliber..

Rams suck this year and we beat a really good Houston team at their place with KA

[LinvilleGorge]

I would like to see our overall points off of turnovers stats. We're second in the NFL in takeaways with 15 (trailing only NE with 16). Of those 15, 14 have come in the last four games. Allen is playing well, but I guarantee you that a ton of our points are coming off off turnovers.

We're a little bit of false gold right now with Allen. Yes, 4-0 looks good but averaging 3.5 takeaways per game isn't sustainable. Even before Jameis did his best Oprah impression of everyone gets a turnover, we were still averaging 2.3 takeaways per game with Allen starting at QB. That takeaway rate would've led the NFL last year.

This has been a great overall team effort and Allen has been a big part of that, but with CMC putting up otherworldly stats and our D forcing turnovers at a mind boggling rate... all I'm saying is don't fall in love just yet. When (if) Cam gets healthy, he'll be back in and it's the right call.

[Castavar]

7 minutes ago, ecu88 said:

Rams suck this year and we beat a really good Houston team at their place with KA

Yep. The same team that went into Arrowhead and beat the high powered Chiefs. Our Texans win was legit and KA was able to come up clutch with the spin on Watt, something Mahomes couldn't do.

[micnificent28]

I think it's this simple. Allen is a fine game manger.. he wont lose u the game but I haven't seen any evidence he can win you shootouts. Yes we are scoring points in bunches but a lot of factors go into that that aren't named kyle allen. 

Cmc is playing a record pace. Half our touchdowns of the allen era have come from there. This team is a Ferrari that practically drives itself.. Remember with Cam on one foot we lost to the Rams by a single touchdown and similar  with the bucs.. Allen is healthy game manager  driving the car exceptionally well. We have yet to see how that car is driven by a healthy Cam..

As much of you guys like Allen is ceiling just isn't higher than a healthy Newton. Can he return to form? Who knows but we would be foolish not to find out and let him walk for Allen.. the Saints are winning and cruising with Teddy Bridgewater and nobody is saying "let's move on when drew comes back". The Patriots find a Kyle Allen every other year but Brady is never an after thought. They fleece whoever's is selling to pay top dollar and fortify for the future.

You drafted Grier as the Cam is hurt plan so at worst if you ship Allen off you have that in the wings. But you don't leave a former MVP in his prime untested not truly knowing if he is done for a player of Allen's caliber you just dont.

I'm with Josh Norris on this one..

[TheMaulClaw]

39 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

7 turnovers really helps with scoring.286 yards won't equal 37 points very often. 20 points came off turnovers.

Yeah but this isnt right context. We played small ball starting with 5 mins left in the 3rd quarter. Also we had some short fields with the TOs....and CMAC had an off game. Most of those yards are through the air. 

Its called... we're up 34 to 10 let's just chew clock.

[Mr. Scot]

The Rams got pretty well manhandled today by the team we face next.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, TheMaulClaw said:

Yeah but this isnt right context. We played small ball starting with 5 mins left in the 3rd quarter. Also we had some short fields with the TOs....and CMAC had an off game. Most of those yards are through the air.

I don't think CMC had an off game. The Bucs came into both games with a clear game plan of not letting CMC beat them... and he still got into the endzone twice. The Bucs selling out to contain CMC opened opportunities elsewhere. I just wish we would counter that. Want to focus on CMC? Fine. Start playing two RBs and motion CMC out wide. Can't focus on CMC and stack the box at the same time.

[TheMaulClaw]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

The Rams got pretty well manhandled today by the team we face next.

Rams have been in a free fall. They also got manhandled by the team we just beat. Also they had no Gurley and no Matthews.

[micnificent28]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

The Rams got pretty well manhandled today by the team we face next.

It will be interesting if we lose that game with Allen because that's who's gonna get the nod what the fan base says at that point after his first loss.

[TheMaulClaw]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I don't think CMC had an off game. The Bucs came into both games with a clear game plan of not letting CMC beat them... and he still got into the endzone twice. The Bucs selling out to contain CMC opened opportunities elsewhere. I just wish we would counter that. Want to focus on CMC? Fine. Start playing two RBs and motion CMC out wide. Can't focus on CMC and stack the box at the same time.

I actually agree. I miss worded. He was a fine decoy and still picked up two TDs.

What I meant is...he didnt have his typical yardage output.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, micnificent28 said:

It will be interesting if we lose that game with Allen because that's who's gonna get the nod what the fan base says at that point after his first loss.

Depends a lot on how he plays.