I don't think we can bench Kyle Allen...

[beastson]

6 minutes ago, Nesbro1 said:

Last year before Pittsburgh Cam lost two games for us.

He also couldn't throw over 20 yds downfield. 

Remember guys coming in for hail marys?

Yes which is why without a fractured foot I expect similar results with Cam as the QB

Since I don't think Cam foot will be 100% healthy until November, its hard to start him unless Kyle become that bad. Kyle has his work cut out for him moving forward. 49ers and Packers on the road is no joke. Those are 2 very strong defenses

[LinvilleGorge]

13 minutes ago, t96 said:

The Chiefs don’t just get better in the playoffs, don’t really see the difference. 

They went to the AFC championship game losing in OT to the eventual champs.

My point is that the mantra of "defense wins championships" isn't anywhere near as true as it used to be. All five of the top ranked defenses were eliminated in the wildcard round. Only two top ten defenses made it past the wildcard round. The playoffs were littered with top offensive teams. Meanwhile, the top four scoring offenses were the Chiefs, Rams, Saints, and Patriots. Guess what the final four teams remaining were? The Chiefs, Rams, Saints, and Patriots. The final four consisted of the #1, #2, #3, and #4 scoring offenses and the #7, #14, #20, and #24 defenses. The average defensive ranking was #16. Perfectly average. 

Defense absolutely still matters, but if you want to compete for Lombardis you better be able to score. The NFL will continue to tweak the rules to encourage higher scoring games because there's a strong correlation between scoring and viewership.

[ecu88]

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

They went to the AFC championship game losing in OT to the eventual champs.

My point is that the mantra of "defense wins championships" isn't anywhere near as true as it used to be. All five of the top ranked defenses were eliminated in the wildcard round. Only two top ten defenses made it past the wildcard round. The playoffs were littered with top offensive teams. Meanwhile, the top four scoring offenses were the Chiefs, Rams, Saints, and Patriots. Guess what the final four teams remaining were? The Chiefs, Rams, Saints, and Patriots. The final four consisted of the #1, #2, #3, and #4 scoring offenses and the #7, #14, #20, and #24 defenses. The average defensive ranking was #16. Perfectly average. 

Defense absolutely still matters, but if you want to compete for Lombardis you better be able to score. The NFL will continue to tweak the rules to encourage higher scoring games because there's a strong correlation between scoring and viewership.

The league is going back to D this season and it has shown.

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, ecu88 said:

The league is going back to D this season and it has shown.

It won't last. They'll just change the rules some more. The trends clearly point to offense. It's what the NFL wants because it's what the casual fan wants to see.

[electro's horse]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It won't last. They'll just change the rules some more. The trends clearly point to offense. It's what the NFL wants because it's what the casual fan wants to see.

I actually think once the Brees, Brady, Rivers, Eli era guys finally retire, they'll go the other way. 

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, Nesbro1 said:

Didn't we score among those with highest points today?

7 turnovers really helps with scoring.286 yards won't equal 37 points very often. 20 points came off turnovers.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, Nesbro1 said:

Phuck the casual fans.

Like it or not, they're the ones that matter. The diehard fans are going to watch no matter what.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, electro's horse said:

I actually think once the Brees, Brady, Rivers, Eli era guys finally retire, they'll go the other way. 

Nope. Casual fans want high flying, high scoring offenses and the NFL will cater to them and make sure they get what they want.

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

7 turnovers really helps with scoring.286 yards won't equal 37 points very often. 20 points came off turnovers.

Bring able to engineer 99 yard drives helps too.

[LinvilleGorge]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Bring able to engineer 99 yard drives helps too.

Yep. Still, we scored 17 points that weren't directly related to turnovers. That's roughly what you'd expect given our yardage production.

[Moo Daeng]

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It won't last. They'll just change the rules some more. The trends clearly point to offense. It's what the NFL wants because it's what the casual fan wants to see.

And the team(s) who play the best defense will set themselves apart regardless. Just because the rules promote offense for entertainment doesnt mean good defense shouldn't be the goal.

You can go back 50 years and the average points scored by a team is a fairly flat line. At times dipping in to the upper teens but usually around 22

 

 

[micnificent28]

1 hour ago, raz said:

31.25 ppg avg with allen at qb, but what were you saying again.  stay with the guy who gets you more points right?

Those teams weren't the rams... nobody we have played with allen is that calliber..

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

And the team(s) who play the best defense will set themselves apart regardless. Just because the rules promote offense for entertainment doesnt mean good defense shouldn't be the goal.

You can go back 50 years and the average points scored by a team is a fairly flat line. At times dipping in to the upper teens but usually around 22

 

 

10 of the past 12 seasons have averaged 22+ppg. Prior to 2008, you had to go all the way back to 1965 to find the most recent 22+ppg season.

The trend is toward offense.

[raz]

Just now, micnificent28 said:

Those teams weren't the rams... nobody we have played with allen is that calliber..

that's the 4 game avg.   from this season.    deal with it.   baby goat is a better choice than giant toddler man right now.