I don't think we can bench Kyle Allen...

[jasonluckydog]

Trade Cam to the Dolphins for a 1st, 2nd and a 3rd and the 2021 1st pick

[ThPantherFan]

4 hours ago, Verge said:

Keep in mind, on those five throws where it was perfectly placed and dropped, he would have been over 300 yards and possibly another TD. 

Can't argue with that.  Would I love this to become Kyle's team?  Yes.  He has an Aaron Rogers style to him.  Let's see how he does with the 49ers first.

[BigSyke]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Did you see a fumble today?

I definitely saw Allen get hit (more than once).

 

Nope. Im just talking about in the past few games. 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, philit99 said:

I know but I have only seen one throw of 40 or more yards from Allen. Samuel could be that guy, and we need someone to stretch the field, to open it up for McCaffery. I though we would see lots of deep throws today, didn’t happen.

See, that's the thing.

The Bucs played exactly the same defense today as they did last time. Basically, they sold out to stop McCaffrey from doing anything.

The premise of that was that if you stopped McCaffrey, the rest of the team couldn't beat you. And last time, they were right.

Today, they gave up a lot of points running that scheme, including seven on a 99 yard drive. Throw in that Greg Olsen made them pay for staying close to the line several times.

So yeah...

[TheMaulClaw]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Yeah, I couldn't sign on to that.

That'd be just as bad as Jake's "thank you" contract (and would probably cost more).

You know that's what makes this such an interesting dichotomy.  Hurndog was rabidly criticized for being too loyal as a gm extending Jake. Ultimately it cost him his job. This is an eerily similar situation...yet the fans who criticized Hurney for being too loyal are clamoring for him to be overly loyal.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, BigSyke said:

Nope. Im just talking about in the past few games. 

Did he lose a fumble last game? I don't recall but it definitely wasn't like the previous week. Thus, it's fair to say he's improved his ball security on hits.

I'd add that calling a guy who's gone five games without throwing a single interception a turnover machine is a bit disingenuous.

 

[philit99]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

See, that's the thing.

The Bucs played exactly the same defense today as they did last time. Basically, they sold out to stop McCaffrey from doing anything.

The premise of that was that if you stopped McCaffrey, the rest of the team couldn't beat you. And last time, they were right.

Today, they gave up a lot of points running that scheme, including seven on a 99 yard drive. Throw in that Greg Olsen made them pay for staying close to the line several times.

So yeah...

I agree with you, Mr Scot, just saying hitting a deep 50 yarder could have backed those safeties off a bit. There will be a time in the future we will need to do that, just curious who that WR will be. Do we trade for one? AJ Green maybe?

[raz]

8 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Yeah, I couldn't sign on to that.

That'd be just as bad as Jake's "thank you" contract (and would probably cost more).

lookin at  you marty.   

 

[ThPantherFan]

4 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

if Cam's foot will fully recover

Cam deliberately played hurt.  He jeopardized the team by not telling the staff he was hurt.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, philit99 said:

I agree with you, Mr Scot, just saying hitting a deep 50 yarder could have backed those safeties off a bit. There will be a time in the future we will need to do that, just curious who that WR will be. Do we trade for one? AJ Green maybe?

How often do you see Brady hitting deep 50 yarders, though?

It's very possible to win without hitting extreme long shots.

[philit99]

1 minute ago, ThPantherFan said:

Cam deliberately played hurt.  He jeopardized the team by not telling the staff he was hurt.

If he jeopardized anyone it was the fans. How do we know what a healthy Cam Newton can do, we haven’t had one since before the Steelers game last year.

[Car123]

12 minutes ago, Yaboychris28 said:

Healthy foot or not. Cam has never shown the same capability of delivering the ball on time with accuracy Allen has displayed  

This is a lie.

[philit99]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

How often do you see Brady hitting deep 50 yarders, though?

It's very possible to win without hitting extreme long shots.

He hits them from time to time. That’s Norv’s system though. How often did Aikman hit Irvin for 50 yard TD? That’s what I’m saying.

[stirs]

Be happy we are 4-2.

Kyle Allen's biggest attribute at the moment is that he is not throwing interceptions.  Yes, the throws a fantastic ball from 5-20 yds, and hits guys in stride, something that Cam nor Jake could ever do consistently.

However, at this point, we are not winning a playoff game.  That's not to say we cannot continue to progress and make the team better as we go.

Our coaching worries me, a lot.  Our offense, nor defense can stay in attack mode, we always get conservative in the 4th qtr, I suppose just to make things interesting.

Cam could carry a team and he could be the main reason for a loss.  KA, at this point, cannot soar that high, but also is not crashing.

I would hate to be Ron and have to make a decision on Cam before KA has a loss.