2020 NFL Draft

[Zeek]

It’s a thin draft at OL. Every time it was my turn to pick it would have been a big reach to take an OL.

I’m very pleased with my first three picks. The rest were difficult based off what was left. Pick 143 I’d probably trade down for more picks but I like Hill if I had to take someone. 

[Tepper's Chest Hair]

This is shaping up to be an incredible draft from a WR perspective, while being skimpy at the top end on positions we need.  Strong likelihood we'd be over reaching if we focus on Need.

IMO, it would go 3 ways:

• We grab a WR in round 1, look more to fill needs in 2/3. 
• Luck out that a player available at our pick that fills a need isn't a massive reach
• Trade back

I would not be opposed to any of the options.  It just depends so much on how things play out.

[Bartin]

6 minutes ago, Tepper's Chest Hair said:

This is shaping up to be an incredible draft from a WR perspective, while being skimpy at the top end on positions we need.  Strong likelihood we'd be over reaching if we focus on Need.

IMO, it would go 3 ways:

• We grab a WR in round 1, look more to fill needs in 2/3. 
• Luck out that a player available at our pick that fills a need isn't a massive reach
• Trade back

I would not be opposed to any of the options.  It just depends so much on how things play out.

This is where I am right now assuming we pick in the mid-late teens. Dropping back to the end of the 1st would be ideal assuming someone doesn’t just fall into our laps. The 2nd and 3rd rounds fit our needs a little better so getting extra picks there would be nice.

[Shocker]

1 hour ago, ColumbusCounty said:

We just took a QB with a top 100 pick

We aren't drafting a QB .....before round 5.

Unless, Rivera and Hurney both get fired. 

I do think we need to address free safety, once and for all ... we could do so much better than Boston. 

Either way it's gotta be BPA. Maybe the stars align. But that's just me. 

 

Wrong

[kungfoodude]

2 hours ago, Zeek said:

So, I love the draft and all the scouting/analysis that goes into it but I'm absolutely floored regarding what the "experts" are saying about our beloved Panthers. Maybe I'm missing something but a lot of them keep picking a Wide Receiver for the Panthers in the first round. CBS has us taking a corner (something I wouldn't love or hate) which would be nice to slide Jackson into the slot and have Bradberry and a first round talent as your bookends of the secondary. Another site has us taking a DT.

My question is this, if we're picking around 16th (current projection) who do you take or at the very least what position should be addressed?

I think OL has to be our top priority, followed by Safety, and then DL or WR. While we haven't been making splashes in Free Agency, I would like to see us address WR through the FA route instead of taking another one early in the 2020 draft. The only wide receiver that I think is a first round quality without any doubts is Jerry Jeudy (yet another talent from the Turds of Tuscaloosa). He looks better than Calvin Ridley coming out of college.

If there's anyway we could use our first round pick on a OL and trade up to get Derrick Brown for a DT we'd be sitting pretty.

Well, we will have Gerald McCoy, Darryl Williams, Bruce Irvin, Ross Cockrell, Shaq Thompson, Tre Boston, Vernon Butler, James Bradberry, and Greg Van Roten as free agents. Those are all key starters or guys in the two deep. With $51 mil in projected cap space, it could get tight. 

The needs we have now without even talking about the potential for free agents would be OL(heavily #1 and at multiple starting and backup positions) and WR, IMO. But, any mass losses from that upper group could throw a whole other set of issues at us. If Bradberry leaves, CB becomes a 1A or 1B priority. Same with Thompson leaving. Boston, Cockrell, McCoy, and GVR/Williams would all result in an immediate starter need. 

IMO, we have to address OL and pronto. 

[ForJimmy]

NT and DE right now (assuming Little comes back ok and Daley can play LG) FS is always needed. I would love the guy from LSU.

[Varking]

We need O-Line, D-line and Safety in the draft this year. The year after I would LOVE a QB. 

[Daddy_Uncle]

2 hours ago, Shotgun said:

I wouldn't care if they used every 2020 pick on O line. Tackles, guards, center. We need all of it.

I've said the same thing for like the past 5 years. They seem to never be serious about fixing our offensive line

[Basbear]

Be here once the panthers are playoff eliminated, keep me up-to-date tho.

 

[Basbear]

36 minutes ago, Daddy_Uncle said:

I've said the same thing for like the past 5 years. They seem to never be serious about fixing our offensive line

I heard that besides the top 5 OLmen on their board, they viewed the rest as no better than street free agents. 

Matsko is an true old school guy and very hard on rookie OLmen, but it seems this year he had to change some with 2 on the team. 

[Zeek]

1 hour ago, Varking said:

We need O-Line, D-line and Safety in the draft this year. The year after I would LOVE a QB. 

I’m a big Cam supporter but I’ll say this. Even if he comes back with MVP stats this year and next year I think this would still be a smart move. Grier’s ceiling isn’t near as high as young Cam’s so I don’t think he’s the answer.

If Hurts is available in the second round then snag his ass up. Similar skill set and a little bit better of a passer I believe. 

[t96]

3 hours ago, Seoul_Panther said:

Presumably that's what Norv and MH were thinking with Grier. You want them to have another go? Who do we get rid of? Our 2019 3rd rounder, our 2015 MVP, or the guy who's won his first 4 starts?

Even with Allen’s play so far and being undefeated at this point in his career I still think he’s closer to very good backup than definite franchise QB. If Cam can’t prove this year that he’s healthy and can still play at a high level then he needs to go. And Grier projects more as a backup. We could have 3 QBs who could be good backups but aren’t franchise QBs, and if that does wind up being the case or how it looks at the end of the year then QB definitely has to be in play. When you have 2 or 3 QBs you really have none.

[t96]

1 hour ago, Daddy_Uncle said:

I've said the same thing for like the past 5 years. They seem to never be serious about fixing our offensive line

Falcons just used 2 firsts on OL and have invested heavily with Matthews ( a top 5 pick a few years ago) and signing Alex Mack and their OL still sucks.

Meanwhile Pats invest very little in OL but due to Scarnecchia their OL is always elite, even when players they’ve developed leave in FA for big deals and then suck for their new team.

 

It’s not as simple as just drafting a ton of OL or signing big name free agents. Matsko has done better with our OL than many other teams have done with theirs investing more in the position. This is how we’re able to field a top 10 D every year and also now have some young talent at he offensive skill positions. Building a team you can never be narrowly focused on one position or position group. It’s not a successful strategy. Cowboys have had a top 5 OL for at least 5 years now after investing a ton in the position and have nothing at all to show for it. 

[Varking]

1 hour ago, Zeek said:

I’m a big Cam supporter but I’ll say this. Even if he comes back with MVP stats this year and next year I think this would still be a smart move. Grier’s ceiling isn’t near as high as young Cam’s so I don’t think he’s the answer.

If Hurts is available in the second round then snag his ass up. Similar skill set and a little bit better of a passer I believe. 

I don’t want Hurts, personally. Lincoln Riley makes QBs look great. If he isn’t around they regress. Look at how Baker Mayfield has come to the NFL. He surprised people year 1 and now a full year+ removed from Riley he looks awful. 
 

Murray looks to be similar. He gets to throw a ton but would anybody say he’s killing it in the nfl? I’d bet next year he regresses similar to Baker. 
 

2 guys who were heisman sand first overall picks. Hurts wasn’t an NFL QB when at Bama. Riley gets a hold of him and he looks amazing and possible Heisman candidate just like the other two. Until further notice it’s buyer beware for me when it comes to Oklahoma QBs.