Norv on CMC: "We can't have him have a 37 touch load over time. Analytics guys saying throw it to him more."

[Tepper's Chest Hair]

5 hours ago, Darvinsun said:

THats not true, we have more than one back or do we? How can back ups get better when they have no game time. We should not even drafted a Rb

You don't get guaranteed game time in close games just for being in a jersey.  Thats idiotic.

You have plenty of chances to get better other than dragging the team down on a Sunday.  Sure, we have back ups.  But you don't pair a fresh back up like Allen with a fresh back up RB unless you absolutely have to.

[Khyber53]

14 hours ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

It's hard to know what the drop off is if the other RBs never get to play.

Ahh but they do see them in practice. And in the position meetings. And they know how well the two men know the playbook... a lot of stuff that you and I don't have exposure to.

[johnnydefence]

It’s just encouraging that we’re starting to use analytics. 

[Waldo]

9 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Ahh but they do see them in practice. And in the position meetings. And they know how well the two men know the playbook... a lot of stuff that you and I don't have exposure to.

Just like they saw William's in practice and still trotted him out as a good idea at LT?

I dont think anyone wants to replace or harm CMC. It would be nice to have him for as long as possible because that's not gautentedd so why not hedge your bets?

[Khyber53]

2 minutes ago, Waldo said:

Just like they saw William's in practice and still trotted him out as a good idea at LT?

I dont think anyone wants to replace or harm CMC. It would be nice to have him for as long as possible because that's not gautentedd so why not hedge your bets?

Because it's a win now, win this game, world. Any one game could be too important to take the chance of losing because you decided to rest your best weapon.

And, if we want to get all Machiavellian, you play for this season, not all the ones down the road, a player's value is at this moment and only this moment.

[Waldo]

14 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Because it's a win now, win this game, world. Any one game could be too important to take the chance of losing because you decided to rest your best weapon.

And, if we want to get all Machiavellian, you play for this season, not all the ones down the road, a player's value is at this moment and only this moment.

I think I just respect the coaches that treat the regular season as a marathon above the ones that can only see the game ahead of them, even if that's the focus. Win now without thought is how we kept trotting Cam out and ruining him while still losing so it's not like it's a philosophy without flaws.

[Khyber53]

1 hour ago, Waldo said:

I think I just respect the coaches that treat the regular season as a marathon above the ones that can only see the game ahead of them, even if that's the focus. Win now without thought is how we kept trotting Cam out and ruining him while still losing so it's not like it's a philosophy without flaws.

Can't really disagree with you on that, but from a coach's standpoint, if we rest people and it costs us a game, they want the coach's head. If a player gets injured because of overuse, they want the coach's head. What's a coach to do?

[Waldo]

2 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Can't really disagree with you on that, but from a coach's standpoint, if we rest people and it costs us a game, they want the coach's head. If a player gets injured because of overuse, they want the coach's head. What's a coach to do?

Walk a razor's edge? It's a tough spot to be in for sure and I dont think it is easy to do by any means. If we lose a game or three but make it into the playoffs for a deep run, it's all forgotten at that point? If we win some of those games and limp into the playoffs and are embaresed does the wins still matter all that much? Completely personal opinion for fans but I know which one will matter more for a coach. Example: John Fox was a limper.

[DeAngelo Beason]

Uhhh... use another back?

[Mr. Scot]

I'm just impressed that Norv knows what "analytics" means 

Back when he started coaching, they were calculating stats with an abacus.

[imminent rogaine]

20 hours ago, Cary Kollins said:

look, there isn't a safety or linebacker in the league that can cover CMC. Hell, most cornerbacks probably can't cover him. So why don't we come out in a 2RB set and motion CMC into the slot?

It's not rocket science.

They did that a lot when he was a rookie And it didn’t seem super effective when he drew corner coverage. 

I do like the 2 back idea. Keep the defense honest with some reverse screens and tosses to Armah and Scarlett. 

[panthers55]

3 hours ago, Waldo said:

I think I just respect the coaches that treat the regular season as a marathon above the ones that can only see the game ahead of them, even if that's the focus. Win now without thought is how we kept trotting Cam out and ruining him while still losing so it's not like it's a philosophy without flaws.

That whole running Cam and ruining him is way overblown. He was getting over a million dollars a game to run and pass. When we tried in the past to make him a pocket passer and not run him so much it failed because Cam's value is a run and pass threat not just a passing threat. It is inevitable that he was going to get injured as he got older, it happens to everyone. I watched the same thing happen to Randall Cunningham and Donovan McNabb when I rooted for the Eagles.  No one thought it was going to be sustainable for 20 years. Coaches let Cam be Cam because honestly as a pure passer his value is significantly diminished.  He is a dual threat guy, when he can't run anymore he needs to hang them up. That is at least my opinion as both a Cam fan and a Panther fan.

[rayzor]

1 hour ago, Khyber53 said:

Can't really disagree with you on that, but from a coach's standpoint, if we rest people and it costs us a game, they want the coach's head. If a player gets injured because of overuse, they want the coach's head. What's a coach to do?

How about making decisions not based on what outsiders think, but on what will win games and keep us going strong throughout the season?

They've got two other young guys who might be capable backs that were brought in to take some of the load off CMC. Use them.