Is Short a bust?

[Carolina Cajun]

No, any player who plays well enough to get a big payday isnt a bust.  If you mean after the payday, still no on that too as hes been serviceable, just not the gamechanger he was prior to the payday.

[Mvp2014]

not a bust.  Bad contract though.  One year isnt enough to warrant that kind of money

[Icege]

No. Bad thread is bad.

[Moo Daeng]

All Pro Bust?

[Khyber53]

For one season, he was the most feared D-lineman in the league, and rightly so. He got a big contract from that and rightly so. Over the next few years he cooled down a bit and moved from monster to darned good to reliably solid with a few flashes. 

He's not a bust if viewed away from the contract and really, all of the criticism of his current play is based off of comparing to that monstrously good year he had in 2015, a year that every player on the team played well above their abilities. 

He's a darned good interior lineman with few, if any, weak spots in his game. Guys like that are never busts, but they are guys that can make for a good, solidly built team. Now about that money... yeah, too much, but what are ya gonna do?

[rayzor]

8 hours ago, Toomers said:

  This is typically ridiculous. 

  His ONE sub par season(last year) he was still a top 20 DT. His play hasn’t regressed nearly as much as it is being made out to be. 

  

If he's not overreacting, he's not living.

[Snake]

8 hours ago, onmyown said:

A bust? No.

Overpaid? Yes. Thats due to a lot of reasons.

He’s still a good player but plays better with good players around him. 2015 team made home shine. He got paid. Star left. His play has declined.

In essence his pay is going to hurt the team, especially now that he was extended. And just like CJ, I don’t expect him to return to 2015 form or be above average the rest of his career. 

How much do you pay a DT who has been a ghost for 4 years? 

[Snake]

24 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

For one season, he was the most feared D-lineman in the league, and rightly so. He got a big contract from that and rightly so. Over the next few years he cooled down a bit and moved from monster to darned good to reliably solid with a few flashes. 

He's not a bust if viewed away from the contract and really, all of the criticism of his current play is based off of comparing to that monstrously good year he had in 2015, a year that every player on the team played well above their abilities. 

He's a darned good interior lineman with few, if any, weak spots in his game. Guys like that are never busts, but they are guys that can make for a good, solidly built team. Now about that money... yeah, too much, but what are ya gonna do?

But the contract is part of the performance. He has done nothing after it and got paid to be top 10. And for some of you to even put CJs name with his is disgraceful. CJ worked his butt off for his bloated contract and was regarding high sack counts till his twilight years. KK is 30 and has had two monster years. 

[Snake]

27 minutes ago, rayzor said:

If he's not overreacting, he's not living.

Should I have made a is Cam Newton done thread instead? That seems popular. 

[hepcat]

8 hours ago, micnificent28 said:

This is where we are now? one sack and Butler could make us for get the other 4 years of trash and even consider us paying him?

Didn’t read my post at all did ya champ

[DeAngelo Beason]

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[MountaineerChemist10]

11 hours ago, Steves89 said:

No 2nd round pick who goes to two Pro Bowls can be a bust.

True dat.

KK hasn't been Aaron Donald material, but he also hasn't been a bust.

[TheMaulClaw]

He's not a bust he just may be done.  The coaches don't assign busts a C on their chest.

[rayzor]

2 hours ago, Snake said:

Should I have made a is Cam Newton done thread instead? That seems popular. 

I was talking about thebigcat