Speculation is Cam will start after the bye.

[johnking3194]

1 minute ago, Verge said:

Anyone who thinks Allen is simply managing the game is not paying attention at all. Yes, the three fumbles are bad, no doubt, but he is consistently moving us down the field otherwise, and it is a matter of the defense making plays as opposed to the QB making bad decisions or poor throws. He is not going to fumble every game.

but he has fumble in every game he has started... and the Texans he was strictly a game manager. That was obvious otherwise CMC does not get close to 40 touches

[steven8989]

5 minutes ago, Verge said:

Anyone who thinks Allen is simply managing the game is not paying attention at all. Yes, the three fumbles are bad, no doubt, but he is consistently moving us down the field otherwise, and it is a matter of the defense making plays as opposed to the QB making bad decisions or poor throws. He is not going to fumble every game.

[Pantherxtreme]

Love the player Cam has been for this franchise but Allen isn't getting benched if the Panthers continue to win. Take that to the bank.

[Sam Mills Fan]

11 hours ago, panthers55 said:

https://nfltraderumors.co/cam-newton-out-for-week-5-expected-to-return-week-8/

I know there has been speculation that Cam might be out all year or as few as 6 weeks. Seems the current speculation is for a week 8 return.

If we win against Jacksonville and Tampa Bay, I see no way in the world that Cam is back.

[johnking3194]

Just now, steven8989 said:

Game manager LMAO, I wish people had to take a test to be allowed on this site.

My bad he had one good spin on Watt and now we are crowning him the goat again.  Allen did just enough not to lose the game. That is game manager status. Our defense won us that game in spite of 3 turnovers by Allen. Its "qwhite" ironic that if Cam had a game like that everyone would be calling for his head. 

[Sam Mills Fan]

2 minutes ago, johnking3194 said:

My bad he had one good spin on Watt and now we are crowning him the goat again.  Allen did just enough not to lose the game. That is game manager status. Our defense won us that game in spite of 3 turnovers by Allen. Its "qwhite" ironic that if Cam had a game like that everyone would be calling for his head. 

People would be calling for Cam's head because he's 9 years into his career and Kyle is 3 games into his. You have higher expectations of people at your own place of business that have been there for 9 years than the guy that's been there 3 weeks, no?

[Sam Mills Fan]

23 minutes ago, PhillyB said:

why do people keep saying this? his last game he has 0 TDs and 3 sack fumbles lost. that is not momentum. that is not a hot hand. if cam is healthy week 8 than at best kyle allen strings together three good performances by then.

you gonna keep the former MVP on the bench over three good performances?

you might, but the coaches won't and neither would anyone else thinking clearly.

If he's still winning after Tampa Bay, the team will be on a 4 game win streak, sitting at 4-2, and Kyle Allen will be 5-0 as a starter. If he's still in there slinging accurate passes around, he deserves to remain the starter until he at least has *one* bad performance.

[raz]

8 minutes ago, johnking3194 said:

My bad he had one good spin on Watt and now we are crowning him the goat again.  Allen did just enough not to lose the game. That is game manager status. Our defense won us that game in spite of 3 turnovers by Allen. Its "qwhite" ironic that if Cam had a game like that everyone would be calling for his head. 

Baby Goat    baby goat baby goat

[Wolfpack352]

Beyond our control but if Cam comes back, I really do hope he balls out, simply put I want the Panthers to win!  If he continues to make poor decisions and not move the offense....well then...this forum will surely get more interesting and of course we will bring up more Kyle vs Cam threads, LOL

[uncfan888]

Fumbles are worse than picks. Allen is doing well but if cam is healthy, cam is the starter

[Sam Mills Fan]

Just now, Wolfpack352 said:

Beyond our control but if Cam comes back, I really do hope he balls out, simply put I want the Panthers to win!  If he continues to make poor decisions and not move the offense....well then...this forum will surely get more interesting and of course we will bring up more Kyle vs Cam threads, LOL

It won't be fair, but I'll be honest: if we bench Allen if we're 4-2 post-London and Cam starts against the 49ers, I'm gonna lose my poo if he throws an early pick.

[Sam Mills Fan]

Just now, uncfan888 said:

Fumbles are worse than picks. Allen is doing well but if cam is healthy, cam is the starter

Lmao why are people saying that this week? I never once heard that in my life until the Camboys came in this week to defend their guy.

[Wolfpack352]

3 minutes ago, uncfan888 said:

Fumbles are worse than picks. Allen is doing well but if cam is healthy, cam is the starter

I disagree....Q, WR and RB can all fumble and it happens.  Something that can be fixed, an easier fix I believe.  A quarterback forcing throws and getting intercepted is simply not a good look and a harder fix.  Throwing a pick in the redzone is very deflating, but the same could be said about a fumble too but we could recover it, a pick is a pick.  

[johnking3194]

3 minutes ago, Sam Mills Fan said:

If he's still winning after Tampa Bay, the team will be on a 4 game win streak, sitting at 4-2, and Kyle Allen will be 5-0 as a starter. If he's still in there slinging accurate passes around, he deserves to remain the starter until he at least has *one* bad performance.

his performance was bad minus one spin move on Watt though. He fumble three times, literally every time he was sacked. He did just enough not to lose (game manager). If our D didn't show up to that game or Watson hit one or both of those deep shots we lose. Kyle is a great backup and that's ok. That means we can win games starting him as long as our D shows up. But all I'm saying is we have been spoiled by Cam who constantly was winning games in spite of coaching or the defense. I just don't see Kyle having that ability. Cam, when healthy, has the ability to carry rosters and that is why you start a healthy Cam 11/10 times. You do not see QB controversy in New Orleans. You should not be seeing it here.