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Speculation is Cam will start after the bye.


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Big mistake if we keep winning with Allen. Since when did everyone get so soft?! This is a BUSINESS, I keep hearing sentimental crap like “You show respect and don’t treat a player like Cam like that!” If you are winning with someone else like Allen, yes you do!

Remember, these players like Cam get paid gigantic money, getting replaced and treated like crap just comes with this business sometime, that’s why you get paid the big bucks.

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We aren't winning *because* of Allen..we are winning in spite of Allen.

Allen isn't leading us to victory.  He is doing just enough to not lose the game.  CMC and our Defense is leading us.  Allen's job is to hand the ball off to CMC and not turn the ball over too much.  He nearly did the last game.

Is there a chance Allen improves?  Sure.  But if his play continues at the same level, and Cam comes back 100% healthy, I don't care if we are on a 4 game win streak.  Put Cam in.

 

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2 hours ago, mjligon said:

1. you know this, how?

2. nah, this is Cam's team sorry pal

1. Because you ride your hot hand until it goes cold in this league. Ask Drew Bledsoe. 

2. Sure, a guy who hasn't won a game in what will have been over a year when/if he returns. Very deserving. 

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1 hour ago, SBiii said:

Virtually all NFL players are playing hurt the majority of the time. 

If one cannot play hurt they don't belong in the NFL.

 

Not all NFL players are hurt to the point where they physically can't play well.

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Guess I’m the only one happy we have two good qbs on the roster, this Allen vs Cam debate is exhausting. 

We gotta pump the brakes on the Allen hype, I for one hope he keeps winning.Colts had brissett and I don’t think I ever heard any rumbles about him replacing luck long term until he retired(obviously). It’s possible to have two good ass qbs on a team, Wentz/foles is another example 

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3 hours ago, Daddy_Uncle said:

Cam is a complicated person and nobody like you or me have the professional expertise to evaluate him mentally. I just think he has matured a lot and being hurt so much has probably humbled him. There has probably never been a time in his life where he wasn't the best player on the field. He just isn't used to it and accepting that cant be easy. I expect him to come back and be the Cam of old once he is truly ready

Why should he be concerned about being the best player on the field?

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1 hour ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

Guess I’m the only one happy we have two good qbs on the roster, this Allen vs Cam debate is exhausting. 

We gotta pump the brakes on the Allen hype, I for one hope he keeps winning.Colts had brissett and I don’t think I ever heard any rumbles about him replacing luck long term until he retired(obviously). It’s possible to have two good ass qbs on a team, Wentz/foles is another example 

So we have a QB that is undefeated when they play and one that has not won a game in his last 9 or 10 starts. Sorry but something is wrong with him mentally and alot of people know.

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It would be a very Rivera thing to do to force Cam into the starting lineup when Kyle has us on a hot streak. Cam hasn't scored a touchdown in his last four games, had a whole offseason to get healthy and still isn't (again...), and is becoming apparent which QB fits Norv's system. If you are wrong, and Cam goes out there and goes 0-1 or 0-2 again, what do you do? Need to stick with Kyle until he is obviously not or obviously is the answer. 

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12 minutes ago, steven8989 said:

So we have a QB that is undefeated when they play and one that has not won a game in his last 9 or 10 starts. Sorry but something is wrong with him mentally and alot of people know.

3 game sample size vs 8 seasons of nfl, it’s fine to to happy and optimistic about kyles play but I’m going to pump the brakes, this is the same hoorah we heard when Derek Anderson came in and won a couple games, don’t get case keenum’d 

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2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'm a big proponent of playing your best football players. There's zero doubt a truly healthy Cam is better than Kyle 

How would you know that so soon? One thing I do know, is that team as a whole has responded with 2 straight road wins after we lost 2 home games we should've  won. Yeah Cam was injured, he admitted it not in front of his teammates,  but some fuging bizarre video. TBH, I don't think the guy wants to play anymore and the other 52 guys know it too. 

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