A healthy Cam or CMC who do you resign?

[raz]

so if we pile all cams losses into consecutive seasons, then he's had the remaining undefeated seasons.  we could do that with anybody. damn.  we got rings

[Varking]

32 minutes ago, SBiii said:

So you're saying 5-losing seasons with Cam at the helm and 2 with Jake?

Yes. That’s part of the deal when you get picked first overall in the draft. You are on an awful team to start your career. 

[SBiii]

3 hours ago, Varking said:

Yes. That’s part of the deal when you get picked first overall in the draft. You are on an awful team to start your career. 

Andrew Luck was a #1 pick and went 11-5, 11-5, 11-5 his first three seasons and he's never had a losing season when suiting up for at least 50% of the regular season games...

...5 losing seasons in 8, not good.

[rayzor]

24 minutes ago, SBiii said:

Andrew Luck was a #1 pick and went 11-5, 11-5, 11-5 his first three seasons and he's never had a losing season when suiting up for at least 50% of the regular season games...

...5 losing seasons in 8, not good.

Who was in his division vs. who was in Cam's?

[Varking]

12 minutes ago, rayzor said:

Who was in his division vs. who was in Cam's?

Right. He played against Mariota, Gabbert and Bortles. 

[LxDunn]

On 9/29/2019 at 7:24 PM, TheMaulClaw said:

After much thought...I think this is the crux of the issue. If Cam is healthy and we want to retain him hes gonna cost us a ton of jack. CMC who in my mind is the best player in the game is going to command the richest salary of any RB in history. I feel we can only afford to retain one of them. That is, if you consider the percentage of cap space signing both will eat up.

I think you've gotta go McCaffrey here.

If there is anything that this Kyle Allen debate has shown us...its that we can win a lot of games having a guy that can manage the game and let CMC do his thing.

Now if Cam was 26 we may be having a different conversation.

What do you guys think about having the ability to sign both? If we cant...who do you go with?

For me it's not much of a question at this point...but I'm curious to read all of your opinions on this upcoming decision.

Lmao

[TheMaulClaw]

20 hours ago, Varking said:

If Tom Brady lost 8 in a row and the backup won 2 games against the Cardinals and Texans, while fumbling 4 times and losing all 4, and scoring 0 TDS in one of those wins, it wouldn’t stop me from signing Tom Brady.

Every other team in the league is capable of signing their QB and running back. We are too. That being said, I’ve never suggesting signing Cam Newton long term is a good move. Signing running backs long term doesn’t seem to be a good move in today’s NFL either. No contracts should be more than 3-4 years. 

I asked you about Ryan who IS a comparable QB. You obviously refused to answer that question.  Tom Brady was winning SB's from when Cam was 12 to up until last year. And unfortunately is the GOAT.  Comparing Cam with Brady is ridiculous.

[Varking]

3 hours ago, TheMaulClaw said:

I asked you about Ryan who IS a comparable QB. You obviously refused to answer that question.  Tom Brady was winning SB's from when Cam was 12 to up until last year. And unfortunately is the GOAT.  Comparing Cam with Brady is ridiculous.

You’ve ducked half the posts I’ve written back to you in response. 

[TheMaulClaw]

24 minutes ago, Varking said:

You’ve ducked half the posts I’ve written back to you in response. 

No I havent. And now you're admktting you're ducking it.

[Varking]

2 hours ago, TheMaulClaw said:

No I havent. And now you're admktting you're ducking it.

I’m at the game. Sorry I don’t have time to respond. 

[SBiii]

10 hours ago, Varking said:

I’m at the game. Sorry I don’t have time to respond. 

CMC doing work today.

Has to be the #1 priority at this point.

[Varking]

7 hours ago, SBiii said:

CMC doing work today.

Has to be the #1 priority at this point.

I don't think there is or has been a person on this board suggesting CMC shouldn't be a priority to get signed. CMC got hurt though and Cinnabons came in for him and did work, too. Maybe we don't need to have CMC out there every play?