Bottom Line on Allen in this game.

[45catfan]

1 minute ago, ARSEN said:

Allen looked lost when his first read was not available.  He always tried to dump it to CMC.  On few occasions other options were wide open and Allen did not see em.

That's generally all he had time for is one read.  It's the chicken/egg scenario.  Would Allen have made more progressions and less fumbles if he had more time?   Who knows?   Allen had NO time because our OL is hot garbage.

[rico6]

3 minutes ago, iamhubby1 said:

 

    Why do you feel it necessary to quantify a win? I guess we didn't win pretty enough for you?

I didn’t do that, hubby. Go to sleep old man.

[iamhubby1]

2 minutes ago, rico6 said:

I didn’t do that, hubby. Go to sleep old man.

 

    Just read what I quoted. I mean, you said it, not me.

[iamhubby1]

    Anyone who believes Kyle is a one read QB is not paying attention. Or has an agenda. 

[45catfan]

1 minute ago, GoobyPls said:

I’m not missing anything, our defense won that job and did their best to eliminate the mistakes Allen made.

 

I already said Allen is a good backup

I hear you, but you are crediting our defense while assuming Houston's defense is some JV squad.  They are a very good defense too, statistically, better than us in most categories.  Our backup outplayed their starter.  I'll take that any day of the week and considering both OLs are hot garbage, one would have thought Deshaun would have had the advantage.

[GoPanthers123]

52 minutes ago, GoobyPls said:

Make no mistake about it we won that game in spite of Allen, he did his best to try and lose it.

 

But he’s a capable backup so I’m happy we won

Ron’s job is on the line, this kid gets him Ws and has chemistry with the team.  Allen keeps winning and he will stay for as long as he wants.

[weyco2000]

43 minutes ago, GoobyPls said:

Make no mistake about it we won that game in spite of Allen, he did his best to try and lose it.

 

But he’s a capable backup so I’m happy we won

Once again,  it was a team win. 

[Tepper's Chest Hair]

I guess all can be forgiven as long as you make 1 good play.

I am happy we won.  But I wasn't happy with Allen's play.  

[rico6]

Just now, iamhubby1 said:

 

    Just read what I quoted. I mean, you said it, not me.

Cat Tower implicated that I was downplaying Allen’s performance (which I never did) hell, he led the game winning drive, but if the defense didn’t bail out those turnovers and Bill O’brien doesn’t go full retard before halftime we possibly lose today. 

Not sure where any “win quantification took place” unless you’re just looking for an axe to grind on a Sunday evening.

 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, weyco2000 said:

Once again,  it was a team win. 

They all are.

[OneBadCat]

I thought Allen played pretty well. He made the drive sustaining throws we needed to win the game. The fumbles aren’t totally his fault, that’s also hardly an execution error on his part. I would have been more pissed if he was throwing INTs.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, Tepper's Chest Hair said:

I guess all can be forgiven as long as you make 1 good play.

I am happy we won.  But I wasn't happy with Allen's play.  

There's forgiving and there's forgetting.

Ditto with Eric Reid. A couple of big plays don't erase that he was lousy for the vast majority of the game.

[OneBadCat]

8 minutes ago, iamhubby1 said:

    Anyone who believes Kyle is a one read QB is not paying attention. Or has an agenda. 

Kyle Allen is just a dumb white running QB. You can’t force him to just be a pocket passer. 

[GoobyPls]

12 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

I hear you, but you are crediting our defense while assuming Houston's defense is some JV squad.  They are a very good defense too, statistically, better than us in most categories.  Our backup outplayed their starter.  I'll take that any day of the week and considering both OLs are hot garbage, one would have thought Deshaun would have had the advantage.

Their defense isn't that good. Brees and Rivers lit them up, Minshew did ok also. Allen was the only one to struggle vs them.