*Article* Cam Newton’s foot injury underscores the problems with the injury reporting rules

[ellis]

This is Mike doing Mike things. And I don’t fault him for it, that’s his operation. 

Yes, this is 100% about gambling. And while we’re on the topic. Either way, gambling is an addiction for many, and I’m a little surprised the league has embraced it publicly as much as they have. Then again, they are greedy bastards, so I’m not surprised. 

[Bartin]

6 minutes ago, Waldo said:

If we lose picks because of the way we handle injuries in house, I'll be pissed. For years the image of JR and Ron were of stand up people that handle things on the up and up. Just goes to show what a public image is worth. I'm sure Ron was privy to worse situations as a player in the 80's but that doesn't count as an adequate excuse for his management skills.

At this point it is looking willful. I don't know if this is post JR or it's a leak from the dam he built, but it's a bad look. With this video a lot has come to light that has just been speculated on and there are openings for punishment from the NFL. 

There is no chance we lose picks. We would need like 5 offenses in a short time frame for it to get that far.

[Mr. Scot]

Two things...

One, a few years back, I saw a kid I was coaching in flag football look like his running was a little bit off. I mentioned it to his mom. Turned out he was having a bit of a problem with his hip. His mom later expressed surprise at how I possibly could have seen that. In typical "ten year old know it all" fashion, he replied, "Well Mom, he's been coaching me for four years."

I'm neither a medical professional nor a professional football coach, but I'd like to think if I can notice something like that, then the people who are professionals can too.

Two, though they may not always acknowledge it, the NFL knows that a lot of their popularity is based on gambling. It was a dirty little secret for years but may see the light more now that sports betting is being legalized in a lot of places.

And yeah, it's the reason why injury reporting matters.

Will the league do something about this? No idea, but it does kind of point a finger at the Panthers.

[Waldo]

3 minutes ago, Bartin said:

There is no chance we lose picks. We would need like 5 offenses in a short time frame for it to get that far.

I would hope that would be to extreme but I don't know and haven't seen the fine print on these rules. Thanks.

[Mr. Scot]

Worth noting: One factor that could easily prevent the NFL from making a big deal out of this is the fact that it kind of makes them look bad too.

Plus, if the Panthers get punished, they might also start pointing fingers at other teams. That does the NFL no favors in the image department.

[Waldo]

So the best thing going for us in this matter is the NFL isn't in need of making an example out of us...Cool

[WarPanthers89]

7 minutes ago, Bartin said:

I do wonder if the team was aware that Cam was putting out this video. Generally, teams are not happy with players fully disclosing their injuries. Cam is given a ton of leeway from the team to basically do what he wants but if they didn’t know he might get a talking to.

I just hope the team does not get fined/investigated by the league, as it will get national attention, and we do not need any more distractions sitting at 1-2 (I’m more mad because if he didn’t hide the injury we could easily be 2-1 by beating the Bucs. Honestly nothing was gained from the video, and I’m not a big fan of it. I am a huge Cam newton fan and always will be, but this is one situation that I wish he didn’t post his blog. It was heavily edited, and really not a good look (this is just my opinion, like it matters) although he did say good things about the team and supporting Allen. 

[Bartin]

6 minutes ago, Waldo said:

I would hope that would be to extreme but I don't know and haven't seen the fine print on these rules. Thanks.

I don’t think there is an exact punishment schedule for violating the injury reporting rules so I’m mostly making that up with some hyperbole but this happens all of the time they never do anything publicly. They would say something publicly if it ever got close to the point where a draft pick was at risk.

[Mr. Scot]

16 minutes ago, Bartin said:

I do wonder if the team was aware that Cam was putting out this video. Generally, teams are not happy with players fully disclosing their injuries. Cam is given a ton of leeway from the team to basically do what he wants but if they didn’t know he might get a talking to.

Just a feeling, but I kinda get the impression this is the sort of thing they'd rather he not do.

[Waldo]

2 minutes ago, Bartin said:

I don’t think there is an exact punishment schedule for violating the injury reporting rules so I’m mostly making that up with some hyperbole but this happens all of the time they never do anything publicly. They would say something publicly if it ever got close to the point where a draft pick was at risk.

I just thought that losing a draft pick is the worst punishment I can think of. I don't really care if they financially fine the organization/coaches. The part that was concerning to me in any issue of retaliation was the length of time Cam mentioned. Sounds like to under the rug this goes then. 

[SZ James (banned)]

45 minutes ago, rayzor said:

Rivera and company are doing the same blind poo they did last year that Tepper had to force (like we saw on all or nothing). It was obvious to all watching that Cam was hurting and it's the coaching staff's responsibility, in the team's best interest, to sit the I injured player.

Ron doesn't do it unless forced to by his boss or the player saying "I can't go".

Ron, you're a grown ass man in charge of the team. You pay attention to your players. 

If we can all see it as casual viewers in limited tiime, how can you not see it?  Open your eyes and use some damn common sense. Just because a player says he's good to go and wants to tough it out doesn't mean he should. Make the call, man. Make the call.

its malice not stupidity

he's already demonstrated he will throw literally everyone else under the bus to save himself 

[TheRumGone]

any last chance rivera had with me has gone out the window after this. I want this entire staff including medical gone.

it’s not just about Cam. We don’t need a staff getting another chance at ruining a star player. 

[TheRed]

Last I checked it was Cam Newton damn near somersaulting headfirst into and over end zones regularly throughout his career..

The two faced fans insinuating he is selfish are mind bogglingly ignorant considering the type of competitor Newton has been. There is no other truth about that.

[KillaCamNewton]

Im trying to figure out how this is Rivera’s fault and not Cam’s.

 

unless there was a clear fracture that you could see on an x-ray (i have not heard this info so correct me if im wrong) how is anyone on the medical staff or coaching staff supposed to know the severity of the injury? If there is nothing an MRI or XRay can show it sure sounds to be like it all comes down to pain tolerance and comfort and the only one who can determine the level of that is Cam. At the end of the day Cam decided he was able to play and no one forced him to go out there. All you posters on here pretending that if you were the coach and clearly on the hotseat like Ron is that you would sit your franchise player despite him telling you he could go need to stop foolish yourselves. This staff has always sat players that had injuries there is literally zero evidence to suggest Ron is throwing Cam out there to play against his will.