I noticed . . .

[TheRumGone]

10 minutes ago, Mikey818 said:

 

I hope cam comes back to 2015 form but I doubt it. If he’s not running he can’t compete with Allen as a passer 

First 8 games of last year proves otherwise. He is injured. If he can’t get back to 100% then Kyle obviously gives us the best chance. I want to win. Bottom line. 100% cam gives us the best chance to win it all. I will root like hell with either qb.

[Mr. Scot]

8 minutes ago, Cover2Safety33 said:

I imagine Norv gave Kyle a simpler game plan and paid more attention to getting calls in quickly so that Kyle would have time to read the pre-snap defense. 

That makes sense but I'm not sure it's true.

Allen has had enough time to know the system and the playbook.

[trucpfan]

21 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

I know that’s your wet dream since that’s the only thing you singled out. But a 100% Cam is better than Kyle Allen. Sorry. You should be hoping Cam comes back to 100% if you want to win a super bowl.

I don’t know what it is that makes you think that we all wish we could turn back the clocks to 2015 but let’s be f’n serious and I’m not referring to running and it’s about BAll PLACEMENT TIMING AND ACCURACY which we should know that part of his game has vastly diminished even fully healthy those things are clutch and I’m sorry one of my favorite players doesn’t do those things well enough to win that chip. A solid game manager will win for us this year I have a thread I’m composing on our team I see things s little differently.

[joemac]

19 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

I know that’s your wet dream since that’s the only thing you singled out. But a 100% Cam is better than Kyle Allen. Sorry. You should be hoping Cam comes back to 100% if you want to win a super bowl.

What if there is no such thing as a 100% Cam Newton anymore?  That 2015 demi-God QB is not walking thru that door again anytime soon, Im afraid.

[electro's horse]

i don't understand how anyone could watch cam's last press conference and think "yes this is a guy who still has football in him."

[TheRumGone]

7 minutes ago, trucpfan said:

I don’t know what it is that makes you think that we all wish we could turn back the clocks to 2015 but let’s be f’n serious and I’m not referring to running and it’s about BAll PLACEMENT TIMING AND ACCURACY which we should know that part of his game has vastly diminished even fully healthy those things are clutch and I’m sorry one of my favorite players doesn’t do those things well enough to win that chip. A solid game manager will win for us this year I have a thread I’m composing on our team I see things s little differently.

And that’s fine. Like I said if he can’t be 100% meaning stretch the ball downfield. Kyle needs to play. We have to have that threat. He was doing all those things first 8 games of the season minus throwing it deep. If his deep ball is gone, he is gone.

[TheRumGone]

6 minutes ago, joemac said:

What if there is no such thing as a 100% Cam Newton anymore?  That 2015 demi-God QB is not walking thru that door again anytime soon, Im afraid.

Then he’s done. Which I explained in multiple posts. If he can’t stretch the field, it’s over.

[Daddy_Uncle]

28 minutes ago, Cover2Safety33 said:

I imagine Norv gave Kyle a simpler game plan and paid more attention to getting calls in quickly so that Kyle would have time to read the pre-snap defense. Norv takes his time with Cam cause he overcomplicates the game plan and takes longer to figure out what he wants to do. 
 

Cam looks too frustrated when the call takes a while for it to be on him. 

Like I have been saying I don't think Norv knows how to use Cam and he gets in his own head. Kyle is the type of QB Norv knows how to get the most out of. Not really anyone's fault but Norv and Cam together has yet to work out. 

[Daddy_Uncle]

[cookinbrak]

16 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

That makes sense but I'm not sure it's true.

Allen has had enough time to know the system and the playbook.

The announcer said that they would send CMC out wide to read the defense, then bring him back and run the play. And still had 20 seconds on the playclock.

[Waldo]

This wasn't a problem in 2015 but has been since then. It sounds more systematic that one person IMO. Putting Allen gave us a reason to change that and hopefully we stick to it because it's been a huge negative for us.

[joemac]

9 minutes ago, Daddy_Uncle said:

Like I have been saying I don't think Norv knows how to use Cam and he gets in his own head. Kyle is the type of QB Norv knows how to get the most out of. Not really anyone's fault but Norv and Cam together has yet to work out. 

What do you mean?  Like getting Cam to throw the ball with some accuracy and touch?  They didnt do anything different yesterday than what theyve done with Cam, its just that Allen appears to be the much more accurate QB these days.

[morgan55]

59 minutes ago, chknwing said:

or they just worked on that during their mini bye week and got better

So they didn’t work on that the last 8 years?

[dpm0409]

30 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

That makes sense but I'm not sure it's true.

Allen has had enough time to know the system and the playbook.

Agreed, Kyle should know the playbook pretty well at this point.

And Cam always does that thing where he goes down on one knee in the huddle to call the play (which in itself is fine) but then when they break he seems to take his sweet time standing up sometimes and slowly walks up to the line.