Its only Tuesday we signing somebody

[micnificent28]

9 minutes ago, SBiii said:

On the Distraction vs. Talent Scale....

....Keeperknack doesn't have the talent required to tip the scale in his favor.

Dude shut up. Kap was 1 pass interference call from wearing a super bowl ring. Hes effective. He is every bit as good at throwing the football as say a lamar Jackson is. And nearly as effective at running the ball. Kap has ran for 160 yards in the playoff and then some. You mean to tell me he doesnt warrant that attention get the fug out of here

[Varking]

Time for Terelle Pryor?

[beastson]

9 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

Dude shut up. Kap was 1 pass interference call from wearing a super bowl ring. Hes effective. He is every bit as good at throwing the football as say a lamar Jackson is. And nearly as effective at running the ball. Kap has ran for 160 yards in the playoff and then some. You mean to tell me he doesnt warrant that attention get the fug out of here

Kap in his last year was not as effective as the Kap in the SB

1 Kap had Harbaugh, the other Kap didn't

Which reminds everyone who don't realize how yet again coaching is the most important. Kap would be garbage with this coaching

[Zeek]

1 minute ago, beastson said:

Kap in his last year was not as effective as the Kap in the SB

1 Kap had Harbaugh, the other Kap didn't

Which reminds everyone who don't realize how yet again coaching is the most important. Kap would be garbage with this coaching

He also had way better blocking and receivers than we have

[micnificent28]

8 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

The longer he's off a roster, the better Kaepernick gets in people's memories.

Why exactly would any team sign a guy off the street who hasn't played in three years and would need time to learn their system before he could even be prepared for a game?

The time to sign Kaepernick would have been in training camp, not three weeks into the season.

How long ago did the exact same situation happen with josh McCown. Or last year when Jay Cutler when was called out of the both. Or josh Johnson who had been retired for a while. Teams do it all the time. Quarterbacks and players get benched for bad play when necessary. Our own Eric Reid was benched but that didnt stop us from making him a starter on our team. You want to argue that Kap was benched vs 2 guys who have never made if off the bench?

You want to argue a guy who at his peak was MVP caliber vs untested backups who struggled and looked bad vs 2nd and 3rd stringers in the preseason? Granted I am hopeful about Kyle Allen..let's be honest from what we know of him vs Kap he isn't better than him right now.

 

[micnificent28]

10 minutes ago, bull123 said:

First off he’s not even close to Jackson 

we could suit Jake up...he was close to a Super Bowl ring and wouldnt bring near the sideshow with him

What are you talking about.. Lamar Jackson coming out everyone said couldn't even play qb in the NFL wanted him to move to wide receiver. His ability to throw was thought of that limited. Hell up until the start of this season people still questioned his ability to throw and probably still do. What do you mean hes not close to lamar jackson???...

[Mr. Scot]

12 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

How long ago did the exact same situation happen with josh McCown. Or last year when Jay Cutler when was called out of the both. Or josh Johnson who had been retired for a while. Teams do it all the time. Quarterbacks and players get benched for bad play when necessary. Our own Eric Reid was benched but that didnt stop us from making him a starter on our team. You want to argue that Kap was benched vs 2 guys who have never made if off the bench?

You want to argue a guy who at his peak was MVP caliber vs untested backups who struggled and looked bad vs 2nd and 3rd stringers in the preseason? Granted I am hopeful about Kyle Allen..let's be honest from what we know of him vs Kap he isn't better than him right now.

Josh McCown has been on an NFL roster up through last season.

Josh Johnson just got cut by a team that's going with Geno Smith as a backup.

Jay Cutler hadn't been out of the NFL for anything close to three years but was still terrible when he returned.

And Colin Kaepernick was never MVP caliber. When your coach has to adjust the offense to cover your deficiencies, you're not anything close to an MVP.

[micnificent28]

26 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

The longer he's off a roster, the better Kaepernick gets in people's memories.

Why exactly would any team sign a guy off the street who hasn't played in three years and would need time to learn their system before he could even be prepared for a game?

The time to sign Kaepernick would have been in training camp, not three weeks into the season.

His completion percentage look every bit as on par with cam even in his last season. In with he threw 16 touchdowns and 4 picks... you mean to tell me people have fading memories of how terrible that was.. if Kyle allen or Grier can put up those numbers the huddle would explode. 

The bias about Kap isn't about money or starting or football at all. If he should get a call to give a team a shot at staying in the playoff hunt isn't even in question numbers and talent wise. The only way you could justify not kicking the tires on him is it isn't about football.

[Varking]

Kap in college:

53.8%, 54.3%, 58.9%, 64.9%. 

Lamar in college: 

54.7, 56.2, 59.1%, went pro. 

 

They were the same guy throwing the ball. Lamar Jackson last year had a worse completion % than any year Kap had in the NFL, period. There are questions surrounding both throwing the ball. Its crazy people think after 2 good games Lamar Jackson is fixed. Wait until he plays better competition.  

 

[Mr. Scot]

4 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

His completion percentage look every bit as on par with cam even in his last season. In with he threw 16 touchdowns and 4 picks... you mean to tell me people have fading memories of how terrible that was.. if Kyle allen or Grier can put up those numbers the huddle would explode. 

The bias about Kap isn't about money or starting or football at all. If he should get a call to give a team a shot at staying in the playoff hunt isn't even in question numbers and talent wise. The only way you could justify not kicking the tires on him is it isn't about football.

Did you happen to check the win loss record in that last season?

Again, we're talking about a guy who hasn't played football in 3 years, and when he did was benched for Blaine freaking Gabbert.

You can keep trying to inflate how good he was, but that's not going to change the fact that he wasn't.

[micnificent28]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Josh McCown has been on an NFL roster up through last season.

Josh Johnson just got cut by a team that's going with Geno Smith as a backup.

Jay Cutler hadn't been out of the NFL for anything close to three years but was still terrible when he returned.

And Colin Kaepernick was never MVP caliber. When your coach has to adjust the offense to cover your deficiencies, you're not anything close to an MVP.

But isn't that exactly what the ravens are doing with Lamar Jackson? Hes looking very MVP like right now. To their credit hes only lost what 1 game since becoming a starter. We do the exact same thing with cam with all the read options and zone run schemes.Every quarterback has weaknesses that coaches should coach around. I think a lot of you want quarterbacks to win a certain way. From the pocket like John Elway and so on and I get it.

But the Game has changes so much that their is more than one way to win from the position. I dont care if he had 300 Carrys and throws 2 touchdowns as long as he is moving the chains and getting wins. Jackson did it all last season. There is no way we shouldn't be able to get a guy with starting experince on the field rolling out and hitting our open era. Hes been training 5 days a week hes in shape and at the end of the day football is football.

 

[micnificent28]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Did you happen to check the win loss record in that last season?

Again, we're talking about a guy who hasn't played football in 3 years, and when he did was benched for Blaine freaking Gabbert.

You can keep trying to inflate how good he was, but that's not going to change the fact that he wasn't.

Wins and losses are a team stat not a judgment factor on how good one player is. Brady is the goat but how do we know hes just not a good player and not a great one without bill? I mean that's a fair assessment because Matt Cassel brissett and Jimmy G all looked like the second coming on the patriots... but it's another story with other franchises. 

I'm not saying kap is the second coming or greatest of all time. But could he beat the Cardinals and keep us in the hunt the next 3-4 games till Cam gets healthy looking at his numbers I dont see why not. Mainly because he doesnt turn the ball over. A game manager is exactly what we need. Let the defense win the game.

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

But isn't that exactly what the ravens are doing with Lamar Jackson? Hes looking very MVP like right now. To their credit hes only lost what 1 game since becoming a starter. We do the exact same thing with cam with all the read options and zone run schemes.Every quarterback has weaknesses that coaches should coach around. I think a lot of you want quarterbacks to win a certain way. From the pocket like John Elway and so on and I get it.

But the Game has changes so much that their is more than one way to win from the position. I dont care if he had 300 Carrys and throws 2 touchdowns as long as he is moving the chains and getting wins. Jackson did it all last season. There is no way we shouldn't be able to get a guy with starting experince on the field rolling out and hitting our open era. Hes been training 5 days a week hes in shape and at the end of the day football is football.

Training makes you an athlete, not a football player.

If I were to look up five other football players who haven't been in the NFL in three years but who are still training hard and hoping for a comeback, would you support us looking at them too?

If no, why not?

[ellis]

Three years away from the game is a long time. Cam’s been away for a couple of days, and people have him retiring.