Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Cam's Passing Chart

Jeremy Igo

By Jeremy Igo,
in Carolina Panthers

Recommended Posts

cookinbrak Grand Master

cookinbrak

Posted
Posted
3 minutes ago, ellis said:

Cover 1 will continue until they can block. Once they block, maybe someone can get open. Until then, they’ll take 22 out of the game and make cam throw into tight coverages. 

What good is getting open if the pass is over or under thrown, or behind the WR? Any team that watches tape of our LA game knows how to stop our offense.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
rippadonn Grand Master

rippadonn

Posted
Posted
23 minutes ago, TheRed said:

All these running backs we have on the roster, and even Holyfield on the PS. Why is our QB who is coming off shoulder surgery throwing the ball 51 times 4 days after the season opener?

Why not use Scarlett and 1,2 punch with McCaffrey. I love me some #22 but why is the whole run offense based on him? Cam said it too. Fantasy?

McCaffrey hasn't been an MVP. McCaffrey hasn't almost single-handedly won lots of NFL games. It's Cam.

If they want to win they need to install an offense for Cam. Listen to what Cam says. He said he's fine.

Smartest thing Tepper could do is call Chud. Make sure Cam is a dud before you let go of the best QB ever in a Panther uniform.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
BIGH2001 Grand Master

BIGH2001

Posted
Posted
15 minutes ago, Bartin said:

Please stop talking about how we needed to run the ball more. Tampa loaded the box and manned up on CMC. They dared Cam to beat single coverage down the field all night and he absolutely failed at it. We threw the ball because we had to throw the ball. Banging your head into a loaded box for 2 yards every play would have been even worse.

Expect to see that same game plan every game until Cam proves he can beat people with his arm. 

Without the run threat Cam is not a very good QB.  Remember at the beginning of 2014 when we tried to make him a pocket passer after the ankle surgery and it didn’t go well.  They scraped that plan and we ended up making the playoffs at 7-8-1.  The problem now is I don’t think he’s physically capable of running like that anymore.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
rippadonn Grand Master

rippadonn

Posted
Posted
26 minutes ago, Bartin said:

Please stop talking about how we needed to run the ball more. Tampa loaded the box and manned up on CMC. They dared Cam to beat single coverage down the field all night and he absolutely failed at it. We threw the ball because we had to throw the ball. Banging your head into a loaded box for 2 yards every play would have been even worse.

Expect to see that same game plan every game until Cam proves he can beat people with his arm. 

Yeah, but at the same time, it's easy to gameplan against just one RB all game long. Norv didn't even try anybody else. Rams did. Tampa did. Sometimes getting the run game going is as simple as using another tool for the job. Norv has failed. CMC can't win the game by himself.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
rippadonn Grand Master

rippadonn

Posted
Posted
21 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

Why not use Scarlett and 1,2 punch with McCaffrey. I love me some #22 but why is the whole run offense based on him? Cam said it too. Fantasy?

McCaffrey hasn't been an MVP. McCaffrey hasn't almost single-handedly won lots of NFL games. It's Cam.

If they want to win they need to install an offense for Cam. Listen to what Cam says. He said he's fine.

Smartest thing Tepper could do is call Chud. Make sure Cam is a dud before you let go of the best QB ever in a Panther uniform.

 

Unless...

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Bartin Collaborator

Bartin

Posted
Posted
5 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

Yeah, but at the same time, it's easy to gameplan against just one RB all game long. Norv didn't even try anybody else. Rams did. Tampa did. Sometimes getting the run game going is as simple as using another tool for the job. Norv has failed. CMC can't win the game by himself.

Scarlett or Bonnafon wouldn’t have made a difference. Now I would like to see them in the game more(or at all really) because CMC should not be playing every snap but they weren’t going to make a difference how the TB defense lined up. They had a clear game plan. They weren’t gameplanning against a single player, they were gameplanning against a single position.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
imminent rogaine Experienced

imminent rogaine

Posted
Posted
41 minutes ago, Bartin said:

Please stop talking about how we needed to run the ball more. Tampa loaded the box and manned up on CMC. They dared Cam to beat single coverage down the field all night and he absolutely failed at it. We threw the ball because we had to throw the ball. Banging your head into a loaded box for 2 yards every play would have been even worse.

Expect to see that same game plan every game until Cam proves he can beat people with his arm. 

People are having a problem swallowing that pill. We have a QB that can’t perform basic QB functions. There are probably 30 other QBs in the league that would have us at 1-1, if not 2-0. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
rippadonn Grand Master

rippadonn

Posted
Posted
21 minutes ago, Bartin said:

Scarlett or Bonnafon wouldn’t have made a difference. Now I would like to see them in the game more(or at all really) because CMC should not be playing every snap but they weren’t going to make a difference how the TB defense lined up. They had a clear game plan. They weren’t gameplanning against a single player, they were gameplanning against a single position.

That's your opinion. A different runner that day may have made a difference. Like I said Rams used two guys and so did Tampa. A one dimensional run game is much easier to defend.

Fire Rivera, Cam sucks!

Am I doing it right?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
BrianS Veteran

BrianS

Posted
Posted

Here's my litmus test:  Would Alex Smith, the ultimate game manager at QB, have given us a better chance?

Watching the last two games, I've got to say, yes, we would have had a better chance to win with Alex Smith at QB.  The narrative all offseason was that "Cam is now healthy and ready to be Cam again".  Yes, I know he had a mid foot injury.  However, he was not on the injury report, and in that circumstance worst case scenario is you simply don't ask him to run the ball as much.

Problematically, it seems Cam is struggling to beat teams with his arm.  That's only a problem if you play QB.  Unfortunately . . .

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Mr. Scot Grand Master

Mr. Scot

Posted
Posted

You know what sucks?

No blue dots.

1 hour ago, Bartin said:

Scarlett or Bonnafon wouldn’t have made a difference. Now I would like to see them in the game more(or at all really) because CMC should not be playing every snap but they weren’t going to make a difference how the TB defense lined up. They had a clear game plan. They weren’t gameplanning against a single player, they were gameplanning against a single position.

Tampa keyed pretty much everything on McCaffrey and dared us to try to beat them with anybody else.

We couldn't, so it worked.

And while I agree we're overusing McCaffrey, the solution to beating that kind of defensive approach is most certainly not to take McCaffrey out. Heck, by doing so you weaken our offense and make the defense's job even easier.

You have to make the defense's job tougher, and the only way you do that is by getting something going at the other positions. And that's not going to happen unless we can get Newton going more consistently.

Otherwise it's going to be a long season.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Shocker Grand Master

Shocker

Posted
Posted
1 hour ago, Bartin said:

Scarlett or Bonnafon wouldn’t have made a difference. Now I would like to see them in the game more(or at all really) because CMC should not be playing every snap but they weren’t going to make a difference how the TB defense lined up. They had a clear game plan. They weren’t gameplanning against a single player, they were gameplanning against a single position.

Those guys don’t get to play...coaches decision

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Snake Grand Master

Snake

Posted
Posted
11 minutes ago, BrianS said:

Here's my litmus test:  Would Alex Smith, the ultimate game manager at QB, have given us a better chance?

Watching the last two games, I've got to say, yes, we would have had a better chance to win with Alex Smith at QB.  The narrative all offseason was that "Cam is now healthy and ready to be Cam again".  Yes, I know he had a mid foot injury.  However, he was not on the injury report, and in that circumstance worst case scenario is you simply don't ask him to run the ball as much.

Problematically, it seems Cam is struggling to beat teams with his arm.  That's only a problem if you play QB.  Unfortunately . . .

Yup he missed so many throws and until the Panthers can beat teams with a QB throwing the ball they are going to crowd the line. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
LinvilleGorge Grand Master

LinvilleGorge

Posted
Posted

We really suck passing to the right side of the field. 13/20 when passing to the left of the hashmarks. We were 11/12 passing to the left in week 1 against the Rams.

I have to wonder if it has something to do with Cam being better able to see where Daryl Williams' man is going to be coming from - because you know he's coming.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Gapanthersfan
      Canales and Mike White

      By Gapanthersfan · Posted

      I just want to see a big guy with an NFL certified cannon arm suit up for the panthers again. To me, it will show that they are at least  trying to take the QB position in the direction it needs to go.   Will he throw picks? Yes. Probably a hell of a lot, but (for now) I’m strangely ok with that… for now. I at least need to see a dude that CAN make the throws with some semblance of accuracy.  This is the time to see what the QB whisperer is made of. The offensive talent is there. It’s certainly better than most rookie/journeymen QBs will ever step in to. If he can get a random dude playing at a JAG level, then I might be sold.  Andy could really surprise in the Buffalo game. He (for now) still has enough arm for Tet and XL to show what they’ve got, but we all know it’s only going to be good for 3-4 games, max. He has vet savvy, and that does account for a lot. He also has a full week of practice with all the snaps to prepare.  My best case scenario going forward: Andy plays the next 2 games nobly (winning one would be a huge bonus) giving White a chance to learn some of the playbook and develop chemistry with the players. Serviceable Andy turns in to old man Andy in game 3 and White takes the field after halftime.  A high ankle sprain (lol, sure it is) is an injury that can buy the team a LONG time for BY to ride the pine…. Maybe even IR. His peak trade value is now. Get what they can for this albatross. He’s now shown that he can be a mid level backup which does hold a significant value for the right team.  Not even in my wildest dreams do I see White being anything more than a JAG, but that’s ok. JAGs with a big arm make great bridge QBs that at least won’t have your play makers stagnating. Keeping BY under center is a 100% recipe for stagnating high ceiling (Tet/XL) dudes and/or not allowing them to take the next step in their development. Why even practice the good half of the playbook if the QB can’t make the throw? After a while, you’ve now got high ceiling guys who can only run a limited route tree. No thanks. 
    • Doc LRB
      Horn and Brown appreciation thread

      By Doc LRB · Posted

      They both outstanding players and both had monster games against Jets.  We gonna need it again this week with the bills.  Go Panthers!!!!
    • strato
      Other NFL Games Week 7

      By strato · Posted

      Yeah okay fair enough.  Maybe the point is if you have a better system and players you can dumpster dive for a RB and if you don’t you have to shop top shelf. I dunno.    I would put my assets into the best OL I could get and let them make UDFA like Rico look like stars. As opposed to putting CMC behind a makeshift OL. And right now I don’t even remember who was on the OL when we took him, just sayin. 
×
×
  • Create New...