I Don't Recognize This Cam Newton

[LinvilleGorge]

12 minutes ago, SBiii said:

Your words:

"Don’t see many people blaming the idiots who have been allowing Cam to play hurt and who let him(yeh, THEY are actually in charge) get destroyed behind horrible o-lines."

Stop the whining & the blame game.  This is the NFL...not the ballet.

Thank you for confirming your idiocy. Those are not my words, you fuging dumbass.

https://www.carolinahuddle.com/boards/topic/158747-i-dont-recognize-this-cam-newton/?do=findComment&comment=4945833

[SmokinwithWilly]

32 minutes ago, SBiii said:

I understand ur logic but that's not how NFL works.

That's not how RR works. Cam was not effective as a QB. 2016 He couldnt pass efficiently, his arm was jello, he was wincing when he threw. 2018, he couldnt throw 20 yards in the air. Protect your freaking quarterback for fugs sake for once.

 

[SBiii]

41 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Thank you for confirming your idiocy. Those are not my words, you fuging dumbass.

https://www.carolinahuddle.com/boards/topic/158747-i-dont-recognize-this-cam-newton/?do=findComment&comment=4945833

You are correct, I misquoted you there --- my apologies. 

So u agree with me?

[SBiii]

16 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

That's not how RR works. Cam was not effective as a QB. 2016 He couldnt pass efficiently, his arm was jello, he was wincing when he threw. 2018, he couldnt throw 20 yards in the air. Protect your freaking quarterback for fugs sake for once.

Cam shud have taken himself out of the game if he couldnt go.  If ur QB#1 says he is good to go, u go with him.  That the way the NFL works.

Stop the whining.

[SBiii]

49 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

You know how to use the quote function. Use it.

 

Took u a few minutes to figure out those weren't ur words huh 

Are u part of the Blame Game Posse too? Or not...

U do a lot of name calling, why?

[LinvilleGorge]

10 minutes ago, SBiii said:

Took u a few minutes to figure out those weren't ur words huh 

Are u part of the Blame Game Posse too? Or not...

U do a lot of name calling, why?

No, it took me a few moments to use the search function to find the post you were referencing so that I could then link it to prove to everyone that you were the complete dumbass I've been touting you to be. Well done, sir.

[SBiii]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

No, it took me a few moments to use the search function to find the post you were referencing so that I could then link it to prove to everyone that you were the complete dumbass I've been touting you to be. Well done, sir.

Feelin' pretty good about that huh....lol.  You sure do a lot of name calling.

Do you blame Ron Rivera for Cam's injuries?

[CPcavedweller]

11 hours ago, CPcavedweller said:

Cam is partially to blame here. By all accounts, he wants to play at 25% the same as he does at 100%. Other than the shoulder, I think he let the pain in his foot go because he thought it wouldn't hinder him as much as ended up happening. He didn't run against the Rams and didn't even try to escape the pocket in ways we know a healthy Cam can do. He didn't seem happy during the game even during positive moments, leading me to believe he was in pain. And then versus Tampa he doesn't even try to avoid oncoming rushers in situations where he wins that 1 on 1 75% of the time. 

That isn't on the coaching staff anymore than it's on Cam, if he was downplaying the pain he was playing through. You don't bench your $90 million QB on a whim or for any reasons that could be perceived as performance related, especially not for an undrafted free agent, no matter how good that UDFA might be. So Cam either comes out with his pain or the coaching staff coaxes it out of him and they realize it's time that Cam needs to actually sit.

Luckily for this season, Allen got in the game in Week 17 last year so we knew what kind of performance he might have as a starter. That luxury of knowing we had a competent back-up makes it easier for the coaching staff to push Cam to rehab. 

Hate to say I told you MF'er's and have been since after the Rams game. Told you he lied to the coaching staff and I was called out several times for it.

So there you go. Cam, in his own words, saying he basically lied about the extent of his injury. 

Will be starting an apology thread soon.

[SmokinwithWilly]

3 hours ago, SBiii said:

Cam shud have taken himself out of the game if he couldnt go.  If ur QB#1 says he is good to go, u go with him.  That the way the NFL works.

Stop the whining.

Cam lied about his condition. It was obvious to anyone. It's the coaches job to protect his players, even from themselves. He didnt do that. That's on Ron.

[emhoward]

1 hour ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Cam lied about his condition. It was obvious to anyone. It's the coaches job to protect his players, even from themselves. He didnt do that. That's on Ron.

I'm not sure that's a coaches job at all. It's a fathers job, a mentors job, an AA sponsers job, but I'm not sure that a coach, who has to manage 53 other players, game plan for upcoming opponent, and manage a coaching staff, has to find it in his schedule to protect a 30 year old man from himself. If he were to do that great, but I'm not going to kill him for not.

[SBiii]

1 hour ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Cam lied about his condition. It was obvious to anyone. It's the coaches job to protect his players, even from themselves. He didnt do that. That's on Ron.

Your expectations are entirely unrealistic.....fantasy land.

[Paa Langfart]

9 hours ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

It's the coaches job to protect his players, even from themselves.

Its the coaches job  to win games first and foremost.  Not act as momma to grown men.  And Ron failed in not pulling Cam when he saw the poo show that Cam was in the first two games.

[beckersteen]

On 9/13/2019 at 5:57 PM, FeelTheBurns53 said:

agreed, and I'm not an expert in the field of nutrition, but aren't meat and eggs the only sources of protein that have all 9 essential amino acids? 

Protein from beans, lentils, nuts, seeds, etc lack essential amino acids needed for protein synthesis, which actually hinders muscle recovery and growth, not help as Cam has suggested.

this whole holistic vegan approach is commendable for sure, but not when you're competition is literally consuming 2lbs of steak and 6 eggs daily

Not a fan of the vegan diet, but you can get a complete amino profile from mixing foods. Beans and rice have separately have incomplete amino profiles, but eaten together covers them all. The main problem that arises from long term vegan diet's is a lack of saturated fats. Surprise surprise, we actually need saturated fats.

[SmokinwithWilly]

11 hours ago, emhoward said:

I'm not sure that's a coaches job at all. It's a fathers job, a mentors job, an AA sponsers job, but I'm not sure that a coach, who has to manage 53 other players, game plan for upcoming opponent, and manage a coaching staff, has to find it in his schedule to protect a 30 year old man from himself. If he were to do that great, but I'm not going to kill him for not.

If it's not the coaches job, who's is it? On Sunday, Rivera is responsible for that team. He has been with Cam going on 9 years. Do you honestly think that he didnt know that something was seriously wrong? I know most of my employees morning rituals when they get to work after 6 months. I can tell if something is off. I just dont buy that he or Hurney had no idea, and just took his word for it that he was ok. 

This is your franchise QB and 40 million dollars of investment. I just dont buy that "that's the NFL." Guys play hurt, I get that. But when the player you rely on most is that physically hurt that someone who sees him once a week can see how hurt he is, pleading ignorance is a BS excuse.

Rivera and Hurneys jobs are on the line. They rolled an injured Cam out there, consequences be damned. I dont understand that type of stupidity from them.

If it happened in my business with my equipment once, it's a very serious warning. Twice you're gone. This is the 3rd time.