Well... #1000 Cam Thread

[Harbingers]

Ok I was going to post this as a response to another thread. But putting it out there as it’s own entity seems like the only fitting thing to do.

Cam isn’t done. I have no idea why everyone suddenly wants to get rid of our star QB two games into a season after major throwing arm shoulder surgery. People can say oh it is or isn’t the shoulder/foot all they want. The truth is...

Cam hasn’t been in true game shape physically or mentally for almost a year. He didn’t get any playtime in the preseason and he doesn’t get pressure in practice. Cam needs to sit down on this time off, reorient his brain to the things he can do best.

I think we are in a season where each game Cam plays is only going to get progressively better. It will take time. Everyone needs to understand that. It’s been a long time since we had an “actual” win according to a lot of people. But this is a new season. We are 0-2, not 0-16.

If you are going to critique Cam, do so on the finer points, don’t just armchair say he’s done. 

[DeAngelo Beason]

His shoulder is fine.  Excuses excuses.  He had plenty of zip on the ball and got the ball down field just fine.  His accuracy is garbage.  The only reason people have overlooked it in the past is because he ran the ball so well.  Now he looks AND runs like Madea, so he can't hide his fatal flaw anymore.

[joemac]

7 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

Ok I was going to post this as a response to another thread. But putting it out there as it’s own entity seems like the only fitting thing to do.

Cam isn’t done. I have no idea why everyone suddenly wants to get rid of our star QB two games into a season after major throwing arm shoulder surgery. People can say oh it is or isn’t the shoulder/foot all they want. The truth is...

Cam hasn’t been in true game shape physically or mentally for almost a year. He didn’t get any playtime in the preseason and he doesn’t get pressure in practice. Cam needs to sit down on this time off, reorient his brain to the things he can do best.

I think we are in a season where each game Cam plays is only going to get progressively better. It will take time. Everyone needs to understand that. It’s been a long time since we had an “actual” win according to a lot of people. But this is a new season. We are 0-2, not 0-16.

If you are going to critique Cam, do so on the finer points, don’t just armchair say he’s done. 

I go by what my eyeballs tell me - and they are telling me that this QB that we have today is but a mere shell of his former self.  No exuberance, no swag, no passion.  Just listless, off target throws, sack, hits in the pocket and losses.  Good times. 

[Harbingers]

4 minutes ago, thebigcat said:

so you're a sports psychologist and sports medicine doctor combined as one.... Thanks... I have two eyes and millions of others do, the strength is there but there is no accuracy, he's never had that as a finer point in his game

Omg Tom Brady had two shitty games! He’s DONE FOREVER. How many times has that ever been said?

Get over yourself.

[jtm]

Cam's either injured or he's terrible.  Either way, he's not a NFL caliber QB at the moment.  He looks slow and lethargic and I think he's injured.

Shame on Hurney for not getting a solid back up QB.  They could have had Brian Hoyer which would be a perfect QB to play until Cam can heal.  

[jtm]

3 minutes ago, DeAngelo Beason said:

His shoulder is fine.  Excuses excuses.  He had plenty of zip on the ball and got the ball down field just fine.  His accuracy is garbage.  The only reason people have overlooked it in the past is because he ran the ball so well.  Now he looks AND runs like Madea, so he can't hide his fatal flaw anymore.

I'm not sure his shoulder is fine.  Those deep throws were all short.  His accuracy is definitely terrible at the moment. 

[*FreeFua*]

2 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

Omg Tom Brady had two shitty games! He’s DONE FOREVER. How many times has that ever been said?

Get over yourself.

Clueless as usual.

Go back to seeking Jeremy’s attention. 

[BrianS]

10 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

If you are going to critique Cam, do so on the finer points, don’t just armchair say he’s done. 

Ok, I'll bite.

How about this:  Our QB went 24/50 overall and 5/13 on third down.  He missed WIDE OPEN receivers over and over and over.  Just a game manager QB like Alex Smith would EASILY have completed 35 balls last night, and frankly, we probably would have won with that.

The Bucs absolutely DARED us to put the ball in Cam's hands.  We did.  He failed in the worst way.

This isn't like the old days where we could say "Oh, he just didn't have time because Shula keeps call these slow developing routes".  Nope.  Norv realized the limitations of the O Line, and called plays that featured multiple options to allow Cam to go deeper if protection allowed it, or get it out quick if he was under pressure.  Cam had clean, clear opportunities to make run of the mill throws to open receivers and he simply failed to execute.

That's on CAM.

[Daddy_Uncle]

I think his touch and timing are just off right now from not playing in so long. You can practice all you want but game speed is totally different. If I am wrong then it's time to start the younger guys and trade Cam. We all saw how hard he worked in the offseason to get back to where he should be. He definitely cares a lot about being the best QB he can be. I don't question his heart or motivation.  He's just off right now

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

He's 30.

The magics gone.

Unless the panther doctors are some mystical doctors who have alien health technology, he's taken too much of a beating and is paying the toll now; its all downhill from here.

At absolute best we are not signing him to another deal.

[Harbingers]

1 minute ago, BrianS said:

Ok, I'll bite.

How about this:  Our QB went 24/50 overall and 5/13 on third down.  He missed WIDE OPEN receivers over and over and over.  Just a game manager QB like Alex Smith would EASILY have completed 35 balls last night, and frankly, we probably would have won with that.

The Bucs absolutely DARED us to put the ball in Cam's hands.  We did.  He failed in the worst way.

This isn't like the old days where we could say "Oh, he just didn't have time because Shula keeps call these slow developing routes".  Nope.  Norv realized the limitations of the O Line, and called plays that featured multiple options to allow Cam to go deeper if protection allowed it, or get it out quick if he was under pressure.  Cam had clean, clear opportunities to make run of the mill throws to open receivers and he simply failed to execute.

That's on CAM.

And that’s absolutely brutally honest critiquing. I’m sure had I watched the game last night I’d be saying the same thing. What it is not is all these “armchair I’m smart” folks saying we lost two games get rid of Cam he’s done and our season is over.

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, Harbingers said:

And that’s absolutely brutally honest critiquing. I’m sure had I watched the game last night I’d be saying the same thing. What it is not is all these “armchair I’m smart” folks saying we lost two games get rid of Cam he’s done and our season is over.

You didn't watch the game?

[rodeo]

Cam was the best player on the team last night by far. CMC lost that one for us, we had no run game to balance the offense. it's honestly time to start thinking of another running back if this guy is going to get stood up at the line 15 times per game and then lose us the whole thing on the final play.

[Asurfaholic]

2 minutes ago, rodeo said:

Cam was the best player on the team last night by far. CMC lost that one for us, we had no run game to balance the offense. it's honestly time to start thinking of another running back if this guy is going to get stood up at the line 15 times per game and then lose us the whole thing on the final play.

Wut lol

 

best player on the field was that kicker guy