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55 minutes ago, Castavar said:

No QB is doing sh*t behind this o-line period (ESPECIALLY a rookie QB). You have to build an elite o-line first, then any decent QB can get you to the playoffs, THEN you find your gem in the draft.

There is some wisdom here.  Jake was not an athletic freak like Cam but he was (in his prime) a good game clock manager, who made the necessary plays when needed.  Fix the O-line and either Allen or Grier could become the next Jake... maybe.  We finally have the offensive weapons for whomever takes the snap under center but we need to give that QB enough time to execute the play.

I don't think we need a star at QB to be successful, even SuperBowl successful.  Wentz demonstrates that.

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1 minute ago, Swaggasaurus said:

He will take no worse hit than a blind side in the pocket.

I mean your right, but the man will still be taking those hits plus the added ones from running. The dude is in pain. He has taken a beating here for a staff that doesnt give a fug about him. It pisses me off thinking about it. What a waste of a once in a generation talent

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7 minutes ago, Kuhndog94 said:

I mean your right, but the man will still be taking those hits plus the added ones from running. The dude is in pain. He has taken a beating here for a staff that doesnt give a fug about him. It pisses me off thinking about it. What a waste of a once in a generation talent

It’s truly fuged bro. I just don’t believe he’s done. He can’t go out this way, you either sit him or let him play how he plays, he’s fuging Cam Newton, the guy slam dunks footballs into the endzone 

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1 hour ago, joemac said:

Im not suggesting throwing anything away on purpose.  Im saying if things stay the way they are, and they stick with the people they have now, the first pick in 2021 will be a certainty.  No active tanking necessary.....just keep doing what you are doing now.

So the Panthers intentionally don't correct issues with the franchise in the hopes of drafting your favorite college player, wow, now that is significantly different from what I just said

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1 hour ago, joemac said:

Im not suggesting throwing anything away on purpose.  Im saying if things stay the way they are, and they stick with the people they have now, the first pick in 2021 will be a certainty.  No active tanking necessary.....just keep doing what you are doing now.

So the Panthers intentionally don't correct issues with the franchise in the hopes of drafting your favorite college player, wow, now that is significantly different from what I just said

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You didn't take into account the possibility of trading for someone. Situations across the NFL change rapidly and you never know what team will sour on their current starter who just needs a change of scenery. Just a random baseless example, but take Matt Stafford for instance. Maybe the Lions have a terrible season again and are ready to move on from him. He'd be a decent stopgap starter while the team grooms a young QB. Or maybe Ben Roethlisberger is done in Pittsburgh, but isn't ready to hang up his cleats. Crazier things have happened.

Also don't discount Grier taking a step up. Let's see how he looks next training camp after a year on the bench.

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1 hour ago, rico6 said:

This team needs to draft the next cornerstone offensive lineman before tossing another guy behind center to get dismantled by year 5

They already drafted someone they think is that guy.

He got a concussion in the second preseason game and is currently sitting behind Darryl Williams on the depth chart.

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5 hours ago, Sam Mills Fan said:

This is no longer a debate. Whether you want to blame injuries on Rivera and the offensive line, you can't deny they're there and they're not going away. Cam Newton is absolutely washed and this is no longer up for discussion. Time to move on after this season. I will always be a fan of his personally for all the things he did for this city and team, but that fandom doesn't translate into me wanting to keep a physical shell of that quarterback past the point where he can play effectively.

This why as a fan I am kind of pissed off.  I love Cam and was optimistic he'd be good this year BUT he has been awful.  What angers me is Tepper said after last season we wouldn't go into another without a viable back up and here we are without one, should it be Cam really is done.  I get the "who was out there, etc" and agree getting a viable back up is not easy to do.    So now it's at least eight to ten games in row, possible more to come with a QB who can't even make basic throws consistently in a game.  

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