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[ellis]

I know we all feel better about things because David Tepper says he likes analytics. And I know everybody got warm and fuzzy after watching the Amazon show, and I know people love when Ron gets loud!!!!

The NFL season never really stops. One season helps to set the stage for another. I’ve been told that I am not allowed to underscore the fact that Carolina has now lost eight of nine, because last year doesn’t matter anymore.

It all matters. What this team does now, it will matter the second half of the season. What they do at the end of this year, it will have a key impact on the beginning of next year. The team isn’t that great, the coaching isn’t that great, and the analytics? Analytics? 

So this post is not so much a reaction about a three point loss. The team quite literally hasn’t won a meaningful game since November 4 of last year. You’re getting into a 2001/2010 type of territory there. 

[MasterAwesome]

9 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Can't be true. I've been assured by @MasterAwesome that Rivera is master strategist on an equal level with guys like Sean Payton and his coaching performance in the second half of this game was an example of that.

Love knowing I’m always in your head, babe ;)

You’re pretty sassy for a 60-something year old...it turns me on a little. Not as much as Sean Payton’s coaching weirdly turns you on, but I can certainly work with this!

[bigdog10]

McVay isn’t doing anything that Sean Payton hasn’t done to Ron for the better part of the last three years. 

Smart offensive coaches are having their way with Ron and he is unable to catch up. It’s why we routinely beat teams with similar philosophies as Ron, but get worked over against teams with capable offensive coordinators/coaches. 

[tiger7_88]

47 minutes ago, ellis said:

 

[panthers55]

1 minute ago, ellis said:

I know we all feel better about things because David Tepper says he likes analytics. And I know everybody got warm and fuzzy after watching the Amazon show, and I know people love when Ron gets loud!!!!

The NFL season never really stops. One season helps to set the stage for another. I’ve been told that I am not allowed to underscore the fact that Carolina has now lost eight of nine, because last year doesn’t matter anymore.

It all matters. What this team does now, it will matter the second half of the season. What they do at the end of this year, it will have a key impact on the beginning of next year. The team isn’t that great, the coaching isn’t that great, and the analytics? Analytics? 

So this post is not so much a reaction about a three point loss. The team quite literally hasn’t won a meaningful game since November 4 of last year. You’re getting into a 2001/2010 type of territory there. 

Hardly seems like journalistic objectivity here. You sound like many of the posters here with a sky is falling analysis. The reasons for our decline last year were clear. Cam is healthy but rusty and it showed in a 3 point loss to the Rams. Last year has nothing to do with this year and the problems last year have largely been addressed. If we continue to struggle and lose then you may have a point about this season. But part of journalism is objectivity. Saying we aren't great the coaches aren't great and we don't use analytics is pure opinion and the kind of journalism that unfortunately substitutes for real journalism where reporters lay out the facts without putting their own spin on it which decreases objectivity and credibility. 

[ellis]

17 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

You started the negativity not with the film but the analysis. If you had said that Rivera wasn't paying attention that is legitimate or you could have pointed out what Rivera himself noted which was his 6 back defense on third down often allowed us to get gashed in the run game when their no huddle kept us from substituting.  Again it was clear. But saying he was consistently outcoached based on one example is overblown analysis in my opinion.

Oh, OK. Sorry for my negativity. Let me go grab my pom-poms. BRB. 

You’re probably right. Ron probably did all he could to win the game. He was probably completely focused in the moment, and there’s probably not 3 or 4 other examples of the team being unprepared situationally on Sunday.

Yes. Yes, I think you are right about that. We’ll just stick with that. You’re probably right.

[Pejorative Miscreant]

How many fumbles did Ron have on Sunday?  Interceptions?

i think McVay did a much better coaching job than Ron but Ron and staff did enough to put the team in a position to win.  At some point players making millions of dollars have to be held accountable also. 

We have a 2 time coach of the year head coach and a former MVP at QB.  I believe the team can get past the woes last week and take a step forward.

 

just my .02

[raz]

mcvay was trying to win a game, rivera was trying to prove a point.   rivera has lots of points to prove and he sure spends a lot of time doing it.   sure wish his point wasn't let's go back to the '70's and '80's in gameplay, attitude, and strategy, and how things are done, and how veterans get the nod over talent and ..... 

[panthers55]

1 minute ago, ellis said:

Oh, OK. Sorry for my negativity. Let me go grab my pom-poms. BRB. 

You’re probably right. Ron probably did all he could to win the game. He was probably completely focused in the moment, and they were probably no other examples of the team being unprepared situationally on Sunday.

Yes. Yes, I think you are right about that. We’ll just stick with that.

Again for a supposed journalist you are pretty thin skinned. What did you expect? Everyone to embrace your opinions without discussion or occasional disagreement. If you want to be seen as objective then stick to the facts and let us decide what it means. If you want to do opinion pieces then expect feedback positive or negative. It is part of the game you chose to play.

[tiger7_88]

1 minute ago, raz said:

mcvay was trying to win a game, rivera was trying to prove a point.   rivera has lots of points to prove and he sure spends a lot of time doing it.   sure wish his point wasn't let's go back to the '70's and '80's in gameplay, attitude, and strategy, and how things are done, and how veterans get the nod over talent and ..... 

All I want to know is if all the players were properly dressed and wearing a tie, pre-game and post-game while arriving and leaving the stadium?

[Moo Daeng]

nm

[tiger7_88]

5 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Again for a supposed journalist you are pretty thin skinned. What did you expect? Everyone to embrace your opinions without discussion or occasional disagreement. If you want to be seen as objective then stick to the facts and let us decide what it means. If you want to do opinion pieces then expect feedback positive or negative. It is part of the game you chose to play.

I'm beginning to suspect that the Loyal Order of He-Man Rivera Lovers are starting to get a little nervous.

[Toomers]

[raz]

1 minute ago, Moo Daeng said:

Seems it would be the Turner's responsibility to keep the offense on task even while the head coach is arguing with the officials.

do what?  d was on.   he was supposedly calling plays, which makes me wonder if he is or not