AB released. Which team will be dumb enough to sign him?

[t96]

On 9/7/2019 at 5:12 PM, Castavar said:

I hope we AT LEAST made an offer to him. If not, then I am going to be pissed. Pats just got a steal for the best WR in the league for one year. Looks like another superbowl appearance for them.

We didn’t and it was the right decision.

[TheRumGone]

42 minutes ago, GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER said:

yeah because everyone knew he had been credibly accused of sexual assault multiple times. and even if that information had been available this would still be some pot calling the kettle black poo. your posts have aged very poorly over the years. want me to dig them up? the fact that you weren’t banned for repeatedly going to bat for nolan nawrocki and his racist screed way back when speaks to igo’s character.

This is why you don’t put your eggs in a broken basket. Warning signs everywhere from all angles. You lessen your message when you attach it to bad people. Which AB was undoubtedly even before these sexual assault allegations popped up. 

[t96]

2 hours ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Who will be dumb enough to sign him chapter two!!!! 

Redskins? May take a year though but some dummy will do it...

[Mr. Scot]

7 minutes ago, t96 said:

Redskins? May take a year though but some dummy will do it...

Don't forget the Redskins are coached by Jay Gruden.

The Seahawks have already said "not us". They were one of the teams there were said to be interested when the Raiders let him go.

[Cam's New Arm]

Where are you all getting this new info? Is there a reddit thread on this?
I'm not into rape porn but I'm curious on the details.

[Castavar]

40 minutes ago, t96 said:

We didn’t and it was the right decision.

Hindsight is 20/20. Nobody knew this was going to come up. Still, Patriots don't have to pay him anything and got a decent performance out of him for one game. They still win.

[TheRumGone]

17 minutes ago, GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER said:

nothing he had done compares to sexual assault and its dangerous to suggest it precipitates it or is in some way predictive of it. 

You should’ve read up on stories that were known of him before these allegations. Ryan Clark was hammering home “this is not a good human being” for years. There are many others. I wasn’t trying to compare sexual assault to what he’s done this past year in the three organizations. Or that you could infer that he would be prone to sexual assault based on his antics with the raiders.  You overlooked many people who have come out saying this is not a good dude for years to hammer home a point about players taking control of their careers. A couple people warned you this was not the dude to prop up for that message. 

[Mr. Scot]

19 minutes ago, Cam's New Arm said:

Where are you all getting this new info? Is there a reddit thread on this?
I'm not into rape porn but I'm curious on the details.

Literally everywhere.

A quick Google search of Antonio Brown will pull you up a ton of results. Heck, Pro Football Talk alone has something like seven stories on their front page.

[Zeek]

It would have to be a team thinking they can compete right now and don’t care about some backlash. He’s gotta be cheap right now.

Sucky teams won’t waste their time.

Texans have made weirdly desperate moves lately.

Buccaneers don’t mind to have Rapist Winston. So maybe there? They might think the division is within reach?

Half of Atlanta fans wanted Vick back even after what he did (imagine if that happened in today’s society). Maybe they add him to Dirty Bird town?

Is Jerry Jones experiencing enough dementia to give him a try?

Bengals used to be the safe bet for a fug up like AB.

[t96]

25 minutes ago, Castavar said:

Hindsight is 20/20. Nobody knew this was going to come up. Still, Patriots don't have to pay him anything and got a decent performance out of him for one game. They still win.

Actually pretty much everybody except for a few (including yourself) saw this coming.

Yet to be seen whether they’ll have to pay him, he’s absolutely going to fight for that money. Based on the plain terms of the labor deal, Brown did not commit a “forfeitable breach” that would permit recovery of any portion of his signing bonus. And until that is resolved (likely after the season) they don’t get that cap space back, so they can’t go back and try to trade for someone like a Trent Williams (as many have suggested, and they could have attempted if not for the Brown signing). That’s not even mentioning the PR shitstorm that hit the Patriots and only the Patriots. The Brown signing was a major failure. They’re good enough that it may have no impact on the rest of their season and they can certainly try to suggest it was worth a shot but there’s no way to spin it as “they still win” in this situation.

[TheRumGone]

22 minutes ago, GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER said:

you don’t just go along with the racists when they’ve found a “not good human being” to whine about because the attitude expressed toward brown was never about brown the individual. it’s all abstract. i didn’t “prop up” brown’s disqualifying faults. up until the sexual assault allegations there was nothing to my knowledge in the public domain that justified the standard chud takes expressed itt and elsewhere. you want to talk about a bad look? how about the idiots who rushed to play “i told you so” over a thing that they uh...never actually told anyone about, exploiting the victims in a pathetic attempt to claim victory or w/e.

How was it more abstract then about Brown the individual? You lost me there.  The people in this thread claiming they’re “winning” the thread are gross and shameful. That wasn’t my intention in quoting you. We both agree on players getting more power in their careers.

I got my info from Ryan Clark and tomlin. I never expected sexual assault. But I did expect him to wear out his welcome in NE quickly. 

[ncfan]

[Castavar]

58 minutes ago, t96 said:

Actually pretty much everybody except for a few (including yourself) saw this coming.

Yet to be seen whether they’ll have to pay him, he’s absolutely going to fight for that money. Based on the plain terms of the labor deal, Brown did not commit a “forfeitable breach” that would permit recovery of any portion of his signing bonus. And until that is resolved (likely after the season) they don’t get that cap space back, so they can’t go back and try to trade for someone like a Trent Williams (as many have suggested, and they could have attempted if not for the Brown signing). That’s not even mentioning the PR shitstorm that hit the Patriots and only the Patriots. The Brown signing was a major failure. They’re good enough that it may have no impact on the rest of their season and they can certainly try to suggest it was worth a shot but there’s no way to spin it as “they still win” in this situation.

Yeah, I'm sure EVERYBODY "including yourself" saw all these rape allegations coming out that NOBODY even knew about until he went to the Pats.

Again, it was a low risk high reward after he got cut by the Raiders. There literally was a very public clause saying they don’t owe him anything if he acts up. And Brown can fight about it all he wants, he will have to win a dispute with the Patriots to see any of his signing bonuses (don't see it happening). And considering he has already received his one game check, the Pats can hold the rest of that money while they fight about it. As for PR, the Pats got through deflate-gate just fine, I'm sure this is nothing to them. It was worth the gamble for a player as good as AB, it's just didn't work out this time.

And I meant "they still win" as in, they took a gamble on one of the best WRs in football, they got a good performance from him, they cut their losses before sh*t REALLY hit the storm, and they don't have to pay him the rest of his money. I call that a minor win in my book.

[Mr. Scot]

44 minutes ago, Zeek said:

It would have to be a team thinking they can compete right now and don’t care about some backlash. He’s gotta be cheap right now.

Sucky teams won’t waste their time.

Texans have made weirdly desperate moves lately.

Buccaneers don’t mind to have Rapist Winston. So maybe there? They might think the division is within reach?

Half of Atlanta fans wanted Vick back even after what he did (imagine if that happened in today’s society). Maybe they add him to Dirty Bird town?

Is Jerry Jones experiencing enough dementia to give him a try?

Bengals used to be the safe bet for a fug up like AB.

The league cares about the backlash, and well they should.

After they got caught with their pants down with incidents like Ray Rice and Josh Brown, the NFL was (rightly) ripped by women's groups for basically turning a blind eye toward violence against women for the sake of protecting their players.

That's part of the reason why the exempt list was invented. While the league still wants to be committed to due process and full investigations, they also want the option to keep guys with high profile and embarrassing accusations out of the spotlight.

In the case of Antonio Brown, the league so far has said "we won't put him on the exempt list as long as nobody signs him." Could you take that as a veiled threat? Sure you could. If I were an owner, I probably would.

And so in the meantime, they'll take their time and investigate. Worth noting here that the usual (and generally sickening) "gold digger" defense isn't going to work with regard to his second accuser.